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Discussion in 'Politics' started by Deacon, Nov 21, 2013.
What will become of ObamaCare?
It will set back the liberal agenda a hundred years, it will cause a massive sweep into office of Republicans in 2014, and it will be repealed in the next year.
(Had to answer thusly 'cause the poll only allows one choice.)
It is really hard to guess the Senate next year. The House will without a doubt stay Republican, maybe with more seats. The Senate will depend on how the Democrats react to Obamacare between now and then. If they delay or change it with the help of Republicans, they could hang on to a small majority.
Of course, the major question is the 2016 Presidential election. There is a chance the Republicans have learned their lesson after nominating moderate to liberal big government nominees for the last twenty-four years. The last smashing victories they had were 1972, 1980 and 1984. It is about time. Further, the Democrats have no real viable leader waiting to take over. I do not believe even they are stupid enough to nominate Biden or Hillary.
What catastrophes have occurred under Romneycare in MA? It is more liberal than Obamacare.
I would think the neo-con conquer/police the world/Israel first agenda is the immediate hot potato for the GOP to drop. We're nearly 17 trillion dollars in debt, we can't bear any more of the neo con agenda of the right any more than we can the socialist agenda of the left. We need true American statesmen that will put America first.
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I never voted, but I believe ACA 'could possibly' "overcome hurdles and be an accepted institution", but only if EVERYONE willingly participated, and that, soon. I don't see that happening.
Why do you insist on making posts that prove your ignorance?
The difference is that Romney’s plan did not raise taxes on individuals or businesses, didn’t cut Medicare, didn’t include “public options” or raise spending by a trillion dollars (or a comparative state budget equivalent) and it didn’t impose insurance price controls. Romney’s plan made no attempt to take over health care. The Massachusetts legislation was a scant 70 pages long, compared to Obamacare’s gargantuan 2,000-page maze of regulation.
Perhaps most importantly, Romney’s plan is a state plan, not a one-size-fits-all federal usurpation of a power constitutionally reserved to the states. States should be free to adopt reforms that work for them. They can borrow the best ideas from one another. The federal government’s role is to be flexible about how their share of health-care dollars may be spent.
The ACA does everything Romney's plan didn't, as well as favoring the sick and elderly over the young and healthy, thus assuring the program's complete failure due to a lack of premium base from those young and healthy policy holders to support the premiums of the sick and elderly. What you and your ilk utterly fail to understand is that it is necessary such supports exist in order for insurance programs to survive. Insurance companies have known that for years. Despite the evidence the ACA will collapse, this idiot administration still hasn't learned Economics 101. Nor do they want to learn it. Their objective is a single-payer system, which will bankrupt the U.S. treasury. Welcome to socialism.
ditto--never underestimate the ability of the GOP to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. I do think that Hillary will be the next President, however.
"Think"? Or "wishfully think"? I don't think she's got a snowball's chance in Death Valley in July.
Besides the longest wait to see a doctor in the state and escalating costs of care?
I think it will be repealed just prior to the elections next year and replaced with something slightly worse that the rino's can hang their hat on and that the sheeple will be giddy over.
Well, I never have liked Mrs. Clinton and don't think that she should be President but I think that the Democrat nomination is hers at this time and I think that she could beat someone like Gov. Christie. The demographics favor the Democrats. It is amazing that so many Hispanics are for Obama because they think that he is going to give them papers so that they can go home for a visit and then return but it is really only about letting them vote Democrat, which they often can do if they have a driver's license. However, this is off the subject of Obamacare, which might be saved if the Democrats can manage to hold onto the Senate next year.
One, a lot can happen in just under three years to change things dramatically. No one "has the nomination" now, or even two and a half years from now. Two, Christie leads Ms. Benghazi in every poll taken so far.
I think you might want to revisit the opinions across those demographics as expressed the last two weeks. True, those polls can change, too, but right now, no one is happy about the ACA, and no Democrat is safe from being splattered with the paint brush of public opinion about it, either.
I think you might want to revisit their current opinions as well. They aren't happy with the Great Pretender or his party.
That isn't likely to happen even if they fix the ACA so it is in a reasonably functional state by then. Too much damage has been done for them to recuperate in less than a year.
The House will continue to attempt to repeal it to no effect. Meanwhile there will be alterations to the law and delays to implement certain elements of it. Eventually, it will become a permanent part of our life. People will complain about it but the public relations effort of the Democrats and the mainstream media will tell us how much better it is than what we used to have and people will grudgingly accept it.