I am curious how readers of this forum would respond to the following situation (this is not a trap to prove any doctrinal/denominational point): Four persons, John, Jane, Bob and Betty, who profess to be Christians are asked this question: How do you know that you are saved? All four answer this question with the exact same reply: “I know that I am saved because God says in his Word, the Bible, that if a person will believe, by faith, in Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior and repent/turn from his sins, God will save him and give him eternal life.” Then the same four people are asked a second question: Do you know “when” exactly that God saved you? John: “God saved me when I was 13 years old, on August 22, 1982 during an altar call at my church. I was convicted of my sins by the preaching of the Word. When the pastor called for those who wanted to accept Christ to come forward, I went forward and prayed a version of the “Sinner’s Prayer” with him, repented of my sins, turned my life over to the Lord, and was saved.” Jane: I grew up in a Christian home. I have loved Jesus ever since I can remember! I started praying to Jesus when I first learned to talk! I really can’t pinpoint an exact day and hour when God saved me, but I know that I am saved because I can state at this very moment that I believe by faith in Christ as my Lord and Savior and I repent daily of my sins. No good deeds will ever help save me. I rely 100% on the grace of God and his free gift of salvation for my hope of eternal life. Bob: I too grew up in a Christian home. I believe that salvation is 100% an act of God and is not dependent on anything I do, say, or pray. Salvation is a free gift of God’s grace, received only by faith. I was baptized as an infant, and due to my understanding of the Bible, I believe that as a child of Christian parents, God gave me the promise of salvation in my infant baptism. However, my getting wet in infant baptism nor my parent’s decision to baptize me, saved me. My parents raised me in the Word to nourish the faith that God implanted in my heart in my baptism. But I know for sure that I am saved ONLY because I can tell you at this very moment that I believe by faith in Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior and I daily repent of my sins. My salvation is a free gift of God, not dependent on my good deeds. To me, the “when” of salvation is God’s business. According to some Christians I am wrong about “when” exactly God saved me, that He didn’t save me in my baptism, but since my faith and hope is in Christ and not in my baptism, I don’t believe that my belief on the exact “when” of salvation, negates my salvation. It is the “how” of salvation that matters! The “how” of salvation is always by believing in Christ, by faith, accompanied with true repentance.” Betty: “Well, I’m not very religious. I only go to church at Christmas. I try to be a good person, though. That’s what really matters. Besides, I was baptized as a baby, so according to my Mom that means I’m a Christian.” So who of these four people gives sufficient testimony for you to believe that they are true Christians, children of God?