Darrell C said: ↑ You seem to imply this in regards to the Rapture. At that time the Church will be, as a whole, glorified, their bodies being resurrected into glorified form. It is in fact that every thing - the "dead in Christ rise First" 1 Thess 4 - at the "FIRST resurrection" Rev 20:5 It is in deed the first resurrection. First that is coming in the future to 1Thess 4. First that is coming in the future of Rev 20 ... First that is coming in the future of those NT writers. True. In Rev 20 the saints take part in the first resurrection and the wicked take part in the 2nd resurrection 1000 years later. Rev 20 4 Then I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was given to them. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony of Jesus and because of the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received the mark on their forehead and on their hand; and they came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. 5 The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were completed. This is the first resurrection. 6 Blessed and holy is the one who has a part in the first resurrection; over these the second death has no power, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with Him for a thousand years. No one is raptured in Rev 11 - in Rev 11, 12, 13 the 1260 years = 42 months of years = 3.5 times of prophetic apocalytpic years = 1260 years. All three chapters are speaking of the dark ages - 1260 years of dark ages persecution -- this has already happened. And so also in Dan 9 the 70 weeks of years - is 490 sola years on earth in that same day-for-year model pointing to the first coming of Christ. Accurately predicting it in fact. The method is proven. Agreed. the 2nd coming of Rev 19... the FIRST resurrection of Rev 20 -- this is what starts the 1000 year millennium. And as Rev 19 says "The REST were killed" -- that is those not killed in the armies that come against Christ in Rev -- the "rest" -- all the rest. All the wicked... killed in Rev 19 at the 2nd coming. And as 1Thess 4 points out - this is also when the saints are taken to heaven - raptured. The "dead in Christ rise FIRST" 1Thess 4 at the "FIRST resurrection" Rev 20:5-6. And this starts the clock for the 10000 years - the millennium. A desolate earth and the saints in heaven. Not according to Rev 20. Rev 20 the "REST of the dead did not come to life until AFTER the 1000 years". The wicked are raised at the end of the millennium.