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Discussion in '2004 Archive' started by Craigbythesea, Feb 14, 2004.
Is preaching holiness the same as preaching legalism? Where should pastors draw the line?
2. Wherever the Bible draws the line.
Are you talking about Wesley's teachings about holiness?
Craig? More specific? Last week our pastor (interim) preached on 'Hallowed be thy name', the holiness of God.
As far as I can tell, if people agree with you, it's holiness, but if they disagree, it's legalism.
That sure is the truth aefting. The concept of Holiness (walking the walk) should not be foreign to Baptist teaching or practice. If it have become so, then a good dose of "Holiness" teaching is needed, I'd say, John Wesley notwithstanding.
Diane, I think he may be referring to holy living.
No, legalisum and holiness are NOT the same. Legalisum is doing things for God's favour. I don't need to do that because Calvary covered it all.
Holiness is a good thing to preach on because once a Christian becomes saved, they will change, and they need to know what is right to do, and what isn't.
And people make it REAL complicated, but I would have to say if the Bible says do it, then do it. If it says don't, then don't. I don't know how simpilar it could get.
My pastor preached on Sunday night from Danial about the three Hebrew men in the firey furness. And he pointed out they refused to compromise. He then pointed out things that, we, as Christians ought not to be compromising today. He did not preach legalisim, just Bible truth...and it was a wonderful, wonderful messege. I wish we'd got a tape of that one, cause I'd like to hear it again.
Proverbs 31:30 KJB
Some people's walk talks louder than their talk talks.
Abby, is that a new hair color? And it's much shorter than in the other photo!
I thought he meant holy living but didn't want to assume incorrectly.
Yeah, new color. Long story how it got this way. Involved some stupidity on my part to say the least. When I finaly decided on THIS color, and showed up for church with it, my nutty friend kept saying "Look at her hair!" to everyone that passed by.
Naw, it ain't shorter....actualy longer. I just have bangs in the front now. Did you just now notice the picture Miss Diane?
I did, Abby! I remember you saying you had serious burning from the bleach back when I had a reaction but haven't seen you around much since you had internet problems! I did see the pictures of you and your dear friend on the photo album tho! (I can see now that your hair is behind your shoulders! I thought it stopped at your shoulders.)
Amen - perfect answer
Sometimes people can equate holiness and legalism and not know it. I have seen people who try to equatwe piety and holiness. Holiness is being consecrated and set apart for God's use. Being set apart for god's use means that I am His. I am his slave. I do the will of the master. It is not about the rules and regulations I set up but about who God is. When I humble myself before God nothing else gets in the way of my serving Him. He comes first.
Some would say that is a legalistic way to put it though.
Maybe I am mistaken, but by your post it seems as if you encouraged young Miss Abby to bleach her hair.
If I were a young girl on here, I would certainly want to follow the lead of the majority. After all Titus 2 does teach the aged women to teach the younger.
No, I'm not. If you look again you'll see I mentioned Abby had told the women she had serious burning reactions from bleaching her hair before and I was surprised to see her with bright blonde hair after that reaction.
I, personally, think girls that age shouldn't be coloring their hair but then this is all about me, isn't it?
I'm sorry I can't see anywhere that anyone encouraged Abby to bleach her hair. Do you think you could point that part out.
I was embarrassed for young MissAbby & I felt the question was out of place. But she's a trooper, my cyber-grandaughter!