I will admit it, I haven't settled my eschatology. As a literalist, I'm premillennial, but as far as pre-trib, mid-trib, post-trib, I find the Bible supports them all to a degree. It's those degrees where all these positions imply Biblical support by stretching the Biblical text that leave me hanging. In my mind, Matthew 24 sets the chronology, and all the above mentioned positions seem to reorder Matthew 24 to some extent. Recently, a pastor friend loaned me 3 books by Van Kampen, who suggests a pre-wrath rapture position. I am excited. I haven't done any in-depth study but this position seems to be what I've found in the Bible but couldn't put a name with it. Are any of you familiar with Van Kampen and the pre-wrath rapture position? What do you think of this position?