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Proctor and Gambles Homosexual Ad

Discussion in '2004 Archive' started by dianetavegia, Sep 29, 2004.

  1. dianetavegia

    dianetavegia Guest

    YOU WOULD NOT BELIEVE THIS ABOUT PROCTER & GAMBLE, SO WE INCLUDED THE PROOF!
    Dear Friend of the Family,

    Suppose I told you Procter & Gamble created and ran an ad that showed two men (in fuzzy focus at top center of the ad) in bed after an apparent sexual encounter.

    http://www.pgboycott.com/pgcommercialcloset.pdf

    Suppose I told you the ad showed clothing scattered across the floor like the two men were in a hurry to get undressed and get into the bed.

    Suppose I told you the P&G ad was captioned with these words: "You were more concerned with taking them off than folding them up." (In other words, the two men just could not wait to get into bed to have homosexual sex.)

    Suppose the ad goes on to say that you can use Downy Wrinkle Release, a P&G product, to unwrinkle your clothes left on the floor in your haste to get into bed.

    Suppose I told you this ad, which leaves the impression that homosexual sex is normal, thrilling and exciting, was created by P&G and run in a homosexual publication called Xtra.

    I know you would have a hard time believing me. So see it for yourself. Click here to see the ad. If that link is no longer active, Click here.

    There should be no doubt P&G is aggressively promoting the homosexual agenda. A company doesn't create and run an ad that leaves the impression that homosexual sex is thrilling and exciting unless they support the homosexual agenda.

    It should come as no surprise when P&G supports homosexual marriage. This is the company that has aggressively come out in favor of repealing the law in Cincinnati which forbids giving homosexuals special rights, but at the same time has refused to support the Ohio Marriage Protection Amendment which defines marriage as being only between one man and one woman.

    Remember, this is the company that said they "will not tolerate discrimination [against homosexuals] in any form, against anyone, for any reason." To keep homosexuals from being legally married is discrimination [for good reason] that P&G says they will not tolerate.
    Take Action
    American Family Association is asking individuals to:

    (1) Boycott three products of P&G — Crest toothpaste, Tide detergent, and Pampers diapers. (Make sure your replacement is not a P&G product. Look on the back of the product.)

    (2) Call Chairman A.G. Lafley at 513-983-1100 and politely let him know that you are participating in the boycott and will ask others to do the same.
    Sincerely,

    Donald E. Wildmon, Founder and Chairman
    American Family Association
     
  2. JGrubbs

    JGrubbs New Member

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    Here is a list of the P&G products sold in North America, this doesn't include the 90+ products that are sold elsewhere around the world:

    Alldays®, Always®, Aussie®, Balsam®, Bold®, Boss®-Hugo Boss, Bounce®, Bounty®, Camay®, Cascade®, Charmin®, Cheer®, Cover Girl®, Crest®, Dawn®, Downy®, Dreft®, Dryel®, Era®, Febreze®, Fixodent®, Folgers®, Frost & Tip®, Gain®, Giorgio®, Head & Shoulders®, Herbal Essences®, Hugo-Hugo Boss®, Hydrience®, Iams®, Infusium®, Ivory®, Joy®, Lasting Color®, Loving Care®, Luvs®, Max Factor®, Men's Choice®, Metamucil®, Millstone®, Miss Clairol®, Mr. Clean®, Natural Instincts®, Nice 'n Easy®, Noxzema®, Nuances®, NyQuil®, Olay®, Old Spice®, Pampers®, Pantene®, Pepto-Bismol®, Pert Plus®, Physique®, Prescription Drugs (Actonel®, Asacol®, Dantrium®, Didronel®, Macrobid®, Macrodantin®), Prilosec OTC®, Pringles®, Puffs®, PUR®, Safeguard®, Scope®, Secret®, Sinex®, Sunny Delight®, Sure®, Swiffer®, Tampax®, Thermacare®, Tide®, A Touch of Sun®, Torengos®, Ultress®, Vicks®, Vidal Sassoon®, Zest®
     
  3. AVL1984

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    Believe it or not, my family on ly uses five from that list of products. And to try and boycott everything everyone makes because we don't agree with what they put into and ad, or what we don't agree with them on is not practical. I'm not disagreeing with diane that the ad is distasteful and wrong, promoting and abhorrant lifestyle. I'm just saying there is no way to be consistant in standing against it in every form or fashion. Many companies today promote such ads without our ever even knowing about it. They also promote other things that most Christians disagree with, but one cannot walk into a grocery store and buy a product without helping to promote some sort of lifestyle they don't agree with. Even things like Ford, GM, General Mills, Dell, HP, and many others promote "equality and acceptance" of such things in the workplace or one can be fired. Are we going to boycott them, too?

    I can't tell you what to do, but since I'm living on a limited income, I buy what's less expensive and pray about things like this, write about my displeasure with their position, and if there is an alternative to their product that is just as effective, I'll buy it. But, until then, I'm also accountable for the money the Lord puts into our hands, to use it wisely.

    AVL1984
     
  4. Johnv

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    AVL, I've long since decided that I will generally not boycott products in the manner reguested. The reason is basic: I purchase products that are of good quality and price. If a company makes a good product, I reward that company by purchasing their product. If they don't, I punish them by not buying that product. I've been told by the SBC I can't go to Disneyland or purchase Disney products (because a third party books a pro-gay convention at the resort once a year). I've been told I can't purchase pizza from Pizza Hut, because the founder of Pizza Hut is pro-choice. I've been told I can't buy Ikea furniture because they had a commercial that showed two men furnishing their house once. I've been told I can't go to Sea World because they're owned by an alcoholic beverage manufacturer. I've been told I can't buy Kraft or Nabisco products, because they're owned by tobacco companies. I've been told I can't buy Saturn vehicles, because they put unreasonable demands on domestic suppliers. I'm told I can't buy anything from Anchor Blue because they hire cheap foreign labor. I'm told I can't buy any teachnology products from any computer company that outsources their call centers to India. I'm told I can't buy anything from Walmart because they're unfair to the competition.

    So, since I have no mode of transportation, and no place to go anyway, I will just sit in my own house, devoid of furniture and appliances, naked and hungry, with nothing to watch, and nothing to watch nothing on. All to avoid the judgements of those who will think less of me if I don't partake in a boycott.

    Now, if someone wants to privately boycott a product or company, I totally support that. I have, on occaision, made an exception and done the same (I refrained from patronizing Carl's Jr when they ran an ad with Hugh Heffner that I felt was an inappripriate influence on my children). But when I choose to do so, I do not belittle those who decide to patronize the business I'm avoiding. I hope that my Christian brethren who decide to boycott P & G or any other product do so privately and without thinking less of their friends and neighbors who do not do the same. I pray that no one's political views, salvation, or commitment to the Lord is questioned because they refrain from this, or any other, boycott. It would be sad to have the topic become KJVO-esque.
     
  5. AVL1984

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    Amen, Johnv. I've had the SBC tell us similar things, and I asked Dr. Wildmon to quit sending me his newsletter. I don't like these people who want to boycott everything in the world. I'd like to see them do it. That would stop their fast food, their other restaurants, etc., their department stores, etc., and even their gas for their cars. Its not practical, nor is it realistic.

    AVL1984
     
  6. JGrubbs

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    Not to mention the cars that they drive. ;)

    When the Disney boycott started it was because Disney was giving homosexual partners benefits, now almost every fourtune 500 company does.

    It would be impossible to boycot every company that does something you don't like.

    I just mark the dates for Disney Gay Days on my calendar, and make sure not to take my family that week. We usually go in November for the Christmas parade. [​IMG]
     
  7. Johnv

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    The latest request I received was from a local Baptist congregation who is encouraging Baptists to refrain from eating at Japanese restaurants, Chinese buffets, and Vietnamese eateries, since these nationalities promote "false religions" like Buddhism, Confucionism, Daoism, etc, and that we are financially supporting those false religions when we patronize those businesses.

    Well, at least I still have my Jewish-run deli, the Greek Orthodox-run sandwich shop, and the Catholic-run Mexican food stand.
     
  8. williemakeit

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    In these situations, 2 Chronicles 7:14 always comes to mind.

    Let's work on reaching more people with the gospel of Jesus Christ. Who knows, maybe if we reach the sons and daughters of those that openly defy the commandments of God, this nation may once again turn toward God. Boycotting is not the answer. There are probably many Christians that rely on P&G (either directly or indirectly) for their livlihood. If they are tithers, then many churches may be benefitting from P&G, also. Dur to our market economy, boycotting can cause just as much harm as good. Again, we as Christians (and I'll take my place at the front of the line) have failed to work as hard as we could have. We are paying for the 60's, 70's and 80's, and I fear that the 90's product will not be any better.

    God bless....
     
  9. Johnv

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    Again, I don't want to discourage anyone from boycotting if they feel so moved. I encourage and support my Christian brethren who do, and I also hold in high regard the person who posted the OP. My request is only that those who DO boycott a product refrain from anything that separates us as brethren.
     
  10. AVL1984

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    Agreed, John. If they believe it is the right thing to do, and that it is what the Lord wants them to do and are convicted about it, they should. I, too hold the person who posted the OP in high regard. She's a great lady and an encouragement to me. [​IMG]

    AVL1984
     
  11. williemakeit

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    I hope no one took my post as a personal assault on the original poster. I agree with both Johnv and AVL. I thought Diane's post was a just a reference she had posted for discussion. I did not take it as necessarily her personal views. Please forgive me if I have offended any brother or sister.
     
  12. Craigbythesea

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    I know a Baptist pastor who has on several occasions married couples who already had spouses who were still alive and taught his congregation that it is perfectly fine for divorced people to get married again to someone else.

    Sexual sin is sexual sin. If no one who was living in sexual sin bought products from Proctor and Gamble, they would have a very small market share. Just because a company advertises in a particular market to increase their market share does not in any way suggest that they condone the behavioral practices of those persons who make up that market.

    Personally, I would not advertise in a homosexual publication because I prefer not to do business with businesses that actively endorse sexual sin. Therefore I boycott Disneyland and all Disney products and many other companies. Proctor and Gamble, on the other hand, is comparatively innocent and I do not boycott them. Right now, this very minute, there may very well be divorced and remarried Christians at Disneyland talking about what a horrible company Proctor and Gamble is :rolleyes: .
     
  13. AVL1984

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    No offense here, willie. I didn't take it as an assault on Diane.

    AVL1984
     
  14. Rookiepastor

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    If a boycott is something that you are not comfortable with, call P&G and let them know that you are offended by the ad.

    Don't forget the power of prayer, pray before you call and after your call as well.

    God Bless
     
  15. blackbird

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    Johnv---can you show me documentation of the idea that the SBC "told" you to boycott . . .?? And need I remind you that unlike the Catholic Papacy---the SBC remains autonomious in the local church setting. That means that Morris Chapman isn't gonna call you on the phone and say, "Johnv! You WILL boycott the following!"(or whatever else)

    The Disney thing---its been so long ago I can't remember EXACTLY----came in the form of a resolution----and you know what a resolution is?? Absolutely nothing legal binding on anyone---

    As for boycotting Disney----I've been once while I was single----costed me a fortune-----last I heard, it costs $45/person to get in---then once you're in, you're in---and then you get hungry---that's $10 more smackers you cough up----add all that up and then multiply by 4(how many in my family now)---and you see why I don't have to worry about a boycott---'cause I can't go because of the bula-bula issue!!!

    Blackbird
     
  16. Carolyn Dee

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    Hey BLACKBIRD, I know whatcha mean about costs (admission and then food and more food...) it sure does all add up.

    You might want to consider KNOEBEL'S AMUSEMENT PARK in Elysburg, PA. There is NO admission charge, NO picnic fee and NO parking fee. It is clean and has the best amusement park food in the COUNTRY (has been voted best for four years running!). Most rides are "vintage" with some modern updates but do not expect the high-charged "theme" park atmosphere. No smutty shirts or clothing is allowed. There is wonderful camping available. Plenty of rest rooms. No gift shops with obscene gifts. Plenty of water stuff for the kids. While you can get an all-day ride ticket, individual rides can be had from 60 cents to 3 dollars each! Praying is ENCOURAGED in a park restaurant! Knoebel Park RULES!!!!! [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
  17. BillyMac

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    UPDATE

    A Short Track Record On P&G's Promotion of Homosexuality

    * P&G recently wrote to their Cincinnati employees urging them to support the repeal of a city law that forbids giving special rights to homosexuals. In 1993, the citizens in Cincinnati adopted the law by a vote of 62% to 38%. P&G is now working to get that law repealed and has given $10,000 toward that goal.
    <a href="http://www.pgboycott.com/pginformation.pdf" target="_blank">
    http://www.pgboycott.com/pginformation.pdf[/url]
    <a href="http://www.pgboycott.com/pgcontributions.pdf" target="_blank">
    http://www.pgboycott.com/pgcontributions.pdf[/url]

    * P&G regularly supports pro-homosexual media with advertising. According to the pro-homosexual Internet news site 365Gay.com, "Procter & Gamble has been a long time supporter of the gay community. It has one of the strongest workplace equality policies among American companies and is a frequent advertiser in the LGBT media, including 365Gay.com"

    * At the request of homosexual activist groups, P&G dropped advertising support for television talk show host, Dr. Laura Schlessinger, because of her politically incorrect view that homosexuality is wrong. http://davidsisler.com/06-10-2000.htm

    * Procter & Gamble is a major corporate sponsor of the annual Cincinnati Pride (homosexual) event celebrating homosexuality.
    http://www.cincypride.com

    * P&G has given $10,000 to Citizens to Restore Fairness, a political homosexual activist group. The co-leader of the campaign is a P&G corporate executive.
    http://www.pgboycott.com/PGContributions.pdf

    * P&G supports an employee network group called GABLE (Gay and Bi-Sexual, Lesbian Employees of Procter & Gamble). Rather approriate name wouldn't you say? Clark Gable was said to be gay.

    * P&G's benefits program includes domestic partnership benefits for same-sex partners. Andrea Adkins of Dayton, a P&G employee for over 20 years, said that the company’s decision to offer domestic partner benefits will be a "very influential for other large typically conservative companies. People do look to Procter & Gamble as an example," Adkins said.
    http://www.pg.com/canada/diversit.htm

    * P&G sponsors the annual “Out & Equal Workplace Advocates” workplace summits. Out and Equal is a homosexual advocacy organization promoting homosexuality in major companies.
    http://www.outandequal.org/pdf/2003-06.pdf

    * P&G was named by PlanetOut as a top 20 company to work for based on their pro-homosexual support and benefits. http://www.********.*********.html
    WEBSITE CANNOT BE POSTED AS: This site contains explicit photos.

    * In 2004, the Human Rights Campaign gave P&G a score of 86 percent in a Corporate Equality Index (CEI). The CEI rates large American businesses on how they are treating gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender employees, consumers and investors.

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    I took the above info from a secular site and from a post by someone who is actively boycotting P&G due to all of these facts. According to him the boycott is gaining momentum even though I myself do not support boycotting anyone. If this is all a true depiction of what is happening (including the successful boycot) then perhaps we need to take a more serious look at the issue.
     
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