Prophecy on Rick Warren

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  1. J.D.

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    From my post of September 14th:

    "Maybe I misjudge Warren, but I can't help but feel that somewhere underneath that sophistry is a rank liberal waiting to be exposed for what he really is. Sorry if that offends you."

    Toldyaso, toldyaso....
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  2. Joseph_Botwinick

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    This is no big revelation to me. Sorry to burst your bubble, but no big deal to me.

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  3. J.D.

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    Joseph, I'm trying to rub salt in some Warrenite's wounds. Can't a guy have some fun?
     
  4. J.D.

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    But alas! After reviewing some of the posts in the Warren threads, so many of them still don't get it. Or else they are one of them (CFR centralist)
     
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    So what is your prophecy . . . what is the time line . . . . and what are the standards so that we know if you have prophesied correctly or not.


     
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    What are you talking about? Told us so...what?
     
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    Don't get what? What in the blazes are you talking about?
     
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    It seems like many think this..............

    2005...
    http://www.ethicsdaily.com/article_detail.cfm?AID=6188

    Warren went to Syria and could find no persecution of Christians. He could find no persecution of Jews. He could find no evidence of extremism. He could find no evidence of the sponsorship of terrorism.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuZGTu-ulLY

    Warren denies praising Syria
    Yet we will have many come running to defend him....saying "conservatives" are picking on our great hero.
     
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    I understand you reformers don't like RW due to the fact the "purposes" in life contradict your theology, but guys, the constant bashing has got to go! You don't see non reformers bashing Piper for him wanting to include infant baptism in his Church, or the blatantly false statement that faith is only the result of regeneration.
     
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    I have too much work that needs to get done to spend my time worrying about Rick Warren.
     
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    Maybe you do no bash Piper. But if Piper wants to do this, I will speak out that it is wrong.

    Its not about the man, it should be about the truth. So if Pipers goal is bring in infant baptism as part of regeneration, I will not hold back from saying he is wrong. Nor do I support Calvin on this.

    RW is a leader. What he does people follow. The follower will take it to the next step.
     
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    If I remember correct, you stated you lead a Bible study, making you a leader, too. I dont' agree with all of your theology, but I do not need to constantly start threads about you and who you talk to outside of Sundays. Did you ever work on any project with anyone besides believers who think like you at work? Would I be a "heretic" for working alongside a pagan trying to ban abortion...both of us believing it is murder? Is AIDS and the fight against it a church issue?
     
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    Come now...quit your crying, I have seen very little toward the man RICK, but rather RICK ideas and doctrine. Believe it or not, there are people that do not feel compromise with the world is good. But we all pick our battles

    If I remember correct, I have seen very little praise from you toward Calvinism. I have seen threads started by you opposed to that theology. I have seen very little praise of John Piper, John Edwards, John Bunyan, John Favel, John Owen, John Brown, John Newton, John Gill, Arthur Pink, RC Sproul, BB Warfield, JI Packer. But there again, I do not look for that from you. I have seen you oppose those that differ with RICK and for that you bring up Piper or Calvinism. Granted, some threads have been a bit picky toward RICK. But you have opposed anyone that speaks out toward RICK.

    The OP was about if RICK was liberal or not. I think he is, by the choices he makes. Some how you always see this as a chance to bring up Calvinism. Why? Did you know that many freewill people do not like RICK? This always comes from you, no matter who post a thread on RICK, be they freewillers, or Calvinist. Liberalism is both in the Calvin camp and the freewill camp. But this thread has nothing to do with Calvinism…till you brought it up.

    I think RICK is liberal. Do you?
     
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    We agree again . . .

    Are ya' cold up there yet?

     
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    Define liberal. I only see legalists (cal's and non cal's alike) and reformers who feel the need to constantly start threads on RW calling him "heretic", "false prophet" and "wolf". I get sick and tired of the same old sick and tired bashing of someone who I believes teaches the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

    Now answer my questions, and let's see how "liberal" you are... :)
     
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    James, it's nice to know you and I can agree on something.

    That's because you are correct, it is not a Calvinist/non-Calvinist issue, it is a liberal/conservative issue.

    Me too.
     
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    Ain't that a mouth full! :thumbs:

    People tend to worry too much about others, and not enough about the lost...

    Jamie
     
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    Our Baptist Faith is 1st and foremost theologically driven toward truth over the worlds ways of sin. We have a few branches in our faith that slant one way or another. These branches go beyond the doctrines of grace, but also includes grace as well as all things that have a study and mind set toward God.

    Liberalism says that "Christianity" is first and foremost a sociologically driven thing. Liberalism lets sociology shape theology, whereas the Baptist faith says that theology must shape sociology.....

    So any movement that emphasizes that sociology must shape theology has liberal tendencies.
     
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    Tis the season. :) :)
     
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    Liberal stands for anyone who doesn't believe exactly as they do.
     

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