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Proverbs 16:1

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  1. UMP

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    KJV:
    "The preparations of the heart in man, and the answer of the tongue, is from the LORD."

    NIV:
    "To man belong the plans of the heart,
    but from the LORD comes the reply of the tongue."

    NASB
    "The plans of the heart belong to man,
    But the answer of the tongue is from the LORD."

    From a Calvinist perspective, no doubt the KJV is clear (Unless I can't read English, which is possible) that God prepares the heart and the tongue to answer. Whereas the NIV and NASB man takes care of the heart and God takes care of the answer.
    Which is correct ?????????????
     
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  2. Ray Berrian

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    UMP,

    I don't know about you but I have at times made plans to do some things and God has providentially seen that I did not go in that direction. I do believe He guides our lives toward His perfect will. Sometimes the Lord gives us words that are convicting or are edifying to those we minister to in our lives. We can give them the truth and yet do it in kindness rather than in a wrathful way.

    "Ray"
     
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    While I do agree with Bro. Ray that sometimes I have 'planned' something(s), I believe the NIV and NASB change the original meaning of the passage.

    IF and means also or is truly a conjunction.

    Here is the phrase from Strong's:

    Proverbs 16:1 The preparations &lt;ma`arak&gt; of the heart &lt;leb&gt; in man &lt;'adam&gt;, and the answer &lt;ma`aneh&gt; of the tongue &lt;lashown&gt;, is from the LORD &lt;Y@hovah&gt;.

    The context is not speaking of what we plan to do in our lives but is speaking of the preparations of the heart in worshipping God.

    Then vs. 9:

    This passage speaks more toward that which we each invision for our personal lives; but is limited because the Lord directeth [our] his steps.

    But what is a man's heart?

    I believe it is plain to see the NIV and NASB alter the meaning of this passage.

    [Just answering the question not trying to make this a versions discussions.]

    Bro. Dallas
     
    #3 Frogman, Sep 29, 2004
  4. UMP

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    While I do agree with Bro. Ray that sometimes I have 'planned' something(s), I believe the NIV and NASB change the original meaning of the passage.

    IF and means also or is truly a conjunction.

    Here is the phrase from Strong's:

    Proverbs 16:1 The preparations &lt;ma`arak&gt; of the heart &lt;leb&gt; in man &lt;'adam&gt;, and the answer &lt;ma`aneh&gt; of the tongue &lt;lashown&gt;, is from the LORD &lt;Y@hovah&gt;.

    The context is not speaking of what we plan to do in our lives but is speaking of the preparations of the heart in worshipping God.

    Then vs. 9:

    This passage speaks more toward that which we each invision for our personal lives; but is limited because the Lord directeth [our] his steps.

    But what is a man's heart?

    I believe it is plain to see the NIV and NASB alter the meaning of this passage.

    [Just answering the question not trying to make this a versions discussions.]

    Bro. Dallas     </font>[/QUOTE]I must agree with your results brother Frog.
    Thank you both for the replies.
     
    #4 UMP, Oct 4, 2004
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