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Question on healing

Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by chameleon101, May 17, 2007.

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  1. chameleon101

    chameleon101 New Member

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    hey everyone

    Im new here and I was hoping I could ask for some advice on healing?
    Does "Is any one of you sick? He should call the elders of the church to pray over him and anoint him with oil in the name of the Lord." (James 5:14) apply for today? If so does God heal today in obediance to this command?

    thanks
     
    #1 chameleon101, May 17, 2007
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    Notice it says that the prayer of faith shall heal the sick. It is not the anointing. I believe the anointing is symbolic of committing the person to the care of the Lord.
     
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    I agree with Pastor Larry that the oil is symbolic.

    I definitely believe in a corporate prayer for healing of the sick by the leadership of the church or the prayer saints of the church.

    They can go as a body to the hospital or to someone's home and do this. The deacons at my church have quietly and privately gone into hospitals and homes and prayed as a body for people.

    So have entire Sunday School classes and representatives of deacon's wives.

    Does this mean that there will be an automatic physical healing by God? No. But there will be some type of move by God. Healing isn't always what we think for or wish for.

    And prayers of righteous people (their leadership isn't what makes them righteous, by the way) are never in vain......they just are answered sometimes in manners that we weren't expecting.
     
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    I've been part of several ceremonies that follow this method. Precious times.

    We've seen God work wonderfully in every circumstance. Not necessarily complete healing (in occassion yes, but the rest not necessarily) but certainly God was glorified. :)

    btw, God needs not be obedient towards us...rather us towards Him.
     
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    chameleon101

    Annointing with oil was considered good medicine at the time. It may have been that James was telling the church to be ready to provide what medical care it could to its members.

    There is also the mention of prayer, confessing sins and receiving forgiveness. Though we know that not every illness/disease comes as the result of sinning, we do know that some illnesses/diseases do come as a result of unforgiven sin.

    As to whether God can or will heal according to this scripture, I would not try to put God into a box and say He must act such and such a way if I do such and such according to scripture. God acts according to His perfect will and plan.

    God can heal (I have personally seen it happen) if he so desires.

    peace to you:praying:
     
    #5 canadyjd, May 17, 2007
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    I have a question... why does it say "the prayer of faith will save the sick" instead of heal the sick?
     
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  7. chameleon101

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    Thanks everyone for your help:wavey:
     
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  8. rbell

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    God always heals His children.

    Some of them receive it on this earth.

    Others receive it in heaven.

    BTW Tim, good question...I'll have to study it...

    Pastor Larry, it's a good thing the oil is symbolic. One day, we visited a very sick gentleman, a strong Christian. He wanted us to anoint & pray. Being good baptists, we had none with us. There was no oil in the house...anywhere. Just as a deacon was going to go and get some, we decided to look in his tool shed out back.

    Just before we broke out the Valvoline, we found some 3 in 1 machine oil. This distressed the fellow (he figured only olive oil would do). We told him, "Hey...it's symbolic...and what could be better for a Christian than 3 in 1 oil?"

    He chuckled, we chuckled, and then we did the anoint & pray thing.

    The fella died three days later, but his daughter said that those three days were precious...he was pain-free, clear-headed, and cheerful.

    Prayer answered.
     
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  9. StefanM

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    The Greek word for save is also used to describe physical healing--i.e. being "saved from illness."
     
    #9 StefanM, May 17, 2007
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