"Racism" re-defined...

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  1. rbell

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    From Neal Boortz: SOURCE

    We see this quite often in my neck of the woods. We have a couple of legislators ("publicity prostitutes") who scream "racism" 24/7. Because of their shenanigans...our local newspaper and news stations will often times run a "manhunt" or "Authorities are looking for..." articles.

    The articles will list height, weight, clothing, gender....but will often times "forget" to list the subject's race. If the subject is black, it is seldom mentioned. Now, keep in mind...we're talking about someone who is on the loose, and being actively searched for by authorities, and they supposedly want the public's help. Yet, so as not to offend the professional victims, a vital piece of information is often left out.

    I only ask that at some point in the future, there will be consistency...that if some particular action is indeed racist, it will be considered racist no matter who is involved. Is that too much to ask?

    Probably so.
     
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    If anyone has called this woman racist, that's obviously wrong. No argument there.

    That said, I have a problem with how this woman is handling the situation. There wa no need to call a press conference and issue statements via a lawyer. In addition, I listened to her statement, and I felt she was overly dramatic. Part of me just wanted to shake her and say "get over it", in the same manner I wanted to tell Gates and the office invoolved to get over it.

    This whole incident is much ado about nothing.
     
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    Your President is the one who brought international attention to it. Not the 911 caller.
     
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    So the woman should get over it and the Police officer should get over it but the President and the Professor should not? The woman was being overly dramatic but the President was not? Interesting and very telling.
     
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    He's "the" president, not just "your" president. And yes, it was inappropriate for him to comment on it when he was asked. The 911 caller, however, is continuing it in her actions. A press conference and a lawyer are unnecessary and overkill.
    You must have missed where I referred to Gates by name, when made the "get over it" comment. To answer your question, no. The woman needs to get over it. The police officer needs to get over it. The profdessor needs to get over it. The President needs to get over it. And most importantly, the media needs to get over it.
     
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    He's not my president. He doesn't represent me or anything I believe in. He may be the president, but he's not mine. And HE is the racist. Speak for yourself.
     
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    John, if someone is getting death threats, and they decide to take it on pro-actively by holding a press conference, I hardly call that "much ado about nothing."

    In today's society, being accused of "racism," (often times done so by people who haven't a clue what the definition of racism actually is) is vocational and social suicide. It can seriously hurt one's standing in one's vocation, in one's community, and with one's acquaintences. If a lady wishes to defend her actions as honorable against people with no conscience and an ulterior motive, I can't blame her in the least.

    Somebody has to take on these scumbags. These "professional victims" are fouling things up, as well as trivializing when there is a true case of racism.
     
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    You're the one who used the "your president" comment, not me. He's "the" president, whether we like him or not.
    Received death threats should rightly be reported to the police, as they apparantly were. No problem there. I have no problems with any of her actions. I simply found the timing and manner of the need to hold a press conference a bit over the top.
     
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    Agreed. We have a Biblical responsibility to pray for our leaders.

    On this we disagree. I believe, going "on the offensive" (via a press conference) was justified here.
     
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    I agree that going on the offense is probably a good idea there. I just disagree that the content of the press conference, plus hiring a lawyer to represent her, was a good way to do that, since it focused more attention on her (the equivalent of using a bucket of water to put out a match). I'm not saying she's a bad person at all. Not in the slightest (calling 911 is exactly what she should have done). But feeding the media frenzy after that makes the whole situation worse, methinks. She's obviously not a racist, but bringing attention to those who call her that brings more attention on the accusation. If I had a dollar for every time someone called me a racist, I'd be immune to the economy.
     
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    People who falsely make accusations of racism in such a high profile situation needs to get the press involved and expose the agenda. She has done what was needed.
     
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    Hmmm, some people here make the charge of racism and refuse to back it up.
     
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    The straw that broke the camels back was when the news media, was trying to get info from her mother.


    BTW, the definition of racism is:

    "a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race"
     
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    Um. No. He is your president as well.
    Unless you live in another country.
    But you do live in the US. So who IS your president?

    I don't like Obama's politics at all. Personally, I think he is very likable but I would never vote for him.

    But I will and do pray for him as we are commanded to do.

    But, where do you get off calling him "Your president" if you feel that he is not yours, do you think that WE voted for him? I certainly did not.
    So to say "Your president" as if he is ours but not yours comes across very arrogant, even if you did not mean it that way, which I am sure you did not.
     
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    Could be we got used to that some 8 years ago, when libs used that term about Bush.
     
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    What's the question?

    The implication is 'understood':

    Mom and Dad with kids:
    Mom to Dad "Sweetheart, OUR son brought in a perfect report today"
    Dad to neighbor "MY son makes me proud; His report was stellar."
    Dad to mom "Let's get out the grill and celebrate MY boy's award!'
    Mom to Dad "Johnny had a minor back bump up on the way home from the party."
    Day to mom "You can tell YOUR son that the insurance will require estimates. Do you trust him to take care of that or must I?"

    "Ownership acknowledged= approval: Ownership deferred= disapproval: Denial, altogether, seldom an option, frequently implied, and rarely the truth.
     
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    The woman that called 911 was called a racist just because she saw someone that looked like they were breaking into a home. I think that she had every right to address those who were accusing her of being a racist.

    One time I used to work as a mall security officer. A black dude in a wheel chair stole some CDs out of a music store. When the store employees confronted him & got him to return to the store, he tried to leave the store after the police officer arrived. The officer stuck his arm out to block his escape & the guy shifted his weight & tipped his wheelchair over. He asked us to help him back into his chair, but then as soon as we did, he kept saying, "Don't touch me!" Then he would ask for help again & keep going back & forth. Everyone of us got tired of it, so the police officer called for an ambulance & just left him on the floor.

    Then he started accusing all of us of being a racist. We all kind of laughed at that. I spoke up & said, "If we're racists, then what are they (I pointed to a few of the black store employees who chased him down)? All he could say was, "I don't know what's wrong with them."

    People need to stop living in the 1960's & realize that yes, there are racists out there, but not everyone that arrests a black person is a racist. Not everyone that reports a crime is a racist. People need to steer clear of the victim mentality, take responsibility for their actions, & move on.
     
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    Amen, preach it!!!
     
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    Many on here did vote for him. He is their president. I have had no president for quite a few years. If you want to claim Obama as your president, it is your choice. People who aren't "progressives" in this nation don't matter to Obama, especially Christians, because he has claimed that America is a muslim nation, haven't you heard? And his wife has never been proud of America (until she moved into 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue). And as the man who holds the title, I have never heard any words about how wonderful this nation is when he bows to muslim kings abroad or speaks as the "citizen of the world." That being the case, I look forward to the day when Obama will appoint an End-of-Life czar to euthanize me as a fiscal liability because I am over 50 and may have potential health issues because I am not a person of color or of his ideology (if his health care plan goes through). Perhaps he will be kinder to some of us than he is to the babies he leaves to die on dirty piles of laundry but I don't count on it.

    And I'm sorry if you think I sound arrogant. Anything I might write on this forum PALES in comparison to the arrogant squatter in the WH. You can believe he was genuinely elected to be the president if you want to, but I believe he is there by fraudulent votes (ACORN), coercion (of Hillary), deception, and intimidation. And I don't even think he is a natural born citizen, either. You can claim him, I don't, and never will. Some day you and others may think about what I've written here when Barack's Executive Orders are carried out under Martial Law. Oh, and that will be coming the next time there is a bad terrorist attack. You can count on it. Pray for him if you feel you are "commanded" to do, but the better thing would be to confront him and follow the examples of Paul and Daniel, IMO. My prayer is that God Jehovah delivers us from BHO's evil.
     
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    LE, sorry to tell you, but you directly violate Scripture with your position.

    In the first century...Paul dealt with leaders as corrupt (maybe even more so!) than Obama...and you see what he wrote.

    So...if you choose to disobey Scripture, that's your peroagative....but you are disobeying. Scripture is quite clear on this issue.

    Rbell <--not in the least an Obama supporter...but I recognize what is a clear Scriptural mandate.
     

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