reign with Christ

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  1. wopik

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    "And I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years" (Rev. 20:4).

    Who will live and reign with Christ a thousand years? Those left behind who go through the Tribulation !! Those who were beheaded in the TRIBULATION, those who witness for JESUS -- in the TRIBULATION. These are the ones who live and reign with Christ for a thousand years.

    Praise God !!
     
  2. Daniel David

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    Actually, it is more broad than that. All who are redeemed will live and reign with Christ. This isn't the only text about this.
     
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    Rev. 20:
    4: And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
    5: But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
    6: Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

    The unrighteous dead lived not again until the thousand years are finished, then they stand before the Great White Throne and cast into the lake of fire.

    And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them

    and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.


    We who return with Christ will be reunited with those who have come to Christ after being left behind, and have been martyred. We shall rule with Christ a thousand years.

    Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
     
  4. wopik

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    that's right, Caretaker.

    We who return with Christ will be reunited with those who have come to Christ after being left behind, and have been martyred.

    When the dead is Christ RISE UP out of their graves and meet the LORD in the clouds, we will all come back down to this good Earth and Christ will start His millenial reign.
     
  5. Ed Edwards

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    There are three groups of people who will live in the physical Millinnial Kingdom of Jesus:

    1. Jewish Israeli protected in the
    wilderness (Rev 12:6)

    2. heathen nations kind to Jews during
    the Tribulation period judgements (Matthew
    25:7, Sheep and Goat nations judgement)

    3. Pre-tribulation raptured/resurrected
    saints selected for special service (Rev 7, Rev 20:4A)

    So, which one of these groups is
    Revelation 204B about?

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    ED,

    Rev. 20:4-5 speaks of "First Resurrection" is the only ONE group who follow Jesus Christ, refuse worship the beast, neither received the mark of the beast, many will be beheaded, they have the part of the first resurrection is the believers of the Church. Clear, it tells us, Church will go through tribulation and face Anticrhsit, many will be beheaded, will have the first resurrection.

    In Christ
    Rev. 22:20 - Amen!
     
  7. Daniel David

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    The Bible never says that the church will face the antichrist. It does say that believers will face the antichrist, but they are not part of the church. They are just redeemed. The church is a particular people for a particular time. Sorry.

    Also, the "first" resurrection has to do with priority, not chronology, although that is true also.
     
  8. Ed Edwards

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    Two groups in Revelation 20:4

    1. "Then I saw thrones, and people seated on them who were given authority to judge."

    2. "I also saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because
    of their testimony about Jesus and because of God's word, who had
    not worshiped the beast or his image, and who had not accepted
    the mark on their foreheads or their hands."

    Two groups are described in Rev 20:4.
    Do you claim they are the same group with two
    different descriptions?

    BTW, there is nothing in "first" that PROVES "one".

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  9. Bartholomew

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    "If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us:" (2 Tim 2:12)
     
  10. Ed Edwards

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    John 16:33 (HCSB):

    I have told you these things so that
    in Me you may have peace.
    In the world
    you have suffering. But take courage!
    I have conquered the world."
     
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    DD,

    Aren't the saints of Rev. 13:7,10, 14:12 the Church - 1 Cor. 14:33?

    Ed,

    John 16:33 speaks of Christ's suffering on the cross, that He already overcome it for our salvation. We should be joyful while face tribulations because Christ already suffer and overcome it. We should follow Christ's example - Luke 9:23 and 1 Peter 2:21.

    In Christ
    Rev. 22:20 - Amen!
     

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