Religious Conservatives Dealt Fatal Blow this Year

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  1. poncho

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    This election proved once and for all that the Democrats don't need the Catholic vote to win, and it proved that evangelicals aren't enough to hand victory to the Republicans.

    As an electoral force, the Catholic Church is dead as a door nail. The American bishops. too lazy or too cowardly to actually preach their own doctrines for the past 40 years, now face a situation in which Catholic voters are now indistinguishable from the population at large, and thus are irrelevant as any sort of a unified voting block. The rank and file Catholics can't even agree on the abortion issue. Thank the bishops. If there was a religious version of breach of fiduciary responsibility, the bishops would be guilty of it.

    Conservative evangelicals, on the other hand, have become little more than a niche interest group within the GOP. This is the group that gives rise to people like Todd Akin, and who are far more of a liability for the party when it comes to appealing to urban and educated people, which is a huge part of the voting population.

    In order to actually hope to win any national elections, the GOP or its successor party will need to flee from the religious conservatives. The new coalition will have to appeal to young Ron Paul people, to gays, to Hispanics, and to other anti-drug war libertarian types.

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    So what makes McMaken the worlds expert on conservative Christians?

    Roman Catholics traditionally vote democrat and as for evangelical Christians I am sure that a significant number voted for Obama. One thing is certain. With 75+% of the people in this country claiming to be Christian the rabid abortionist Obama could not have won without a size-able vote from professing Christians!
     
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    It should be scary for the GOP that they lost millennials at a higher rate in these two elections than any other group.

    The long term picture for the GOP isn't good.
     
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    GOP in Deep Trouble, Ron Paul Looking Good

    Romney lost today to a guy who is overseeing a horrible economy, prosecuting unpopular wars, and who can barely string 5 words together without a teleprompter. This was the best the Republican Party can do. Not only are the Republicans evil, they're evil and contemptible losers, which is far worse.

    The biggest losers tonight are of course people who value peace and freedom, but we would have also lost if Romney won. The GOP is right up there in the loser category, however. The GOP lost seats in the Senate, and did little to improve its position in the House. It has served up two ridiculously bad nominees in a row, claiming "electability" and then going down in flames.

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    The Ron Paul movement is a big winner here. The GOP told the libertarians in the party to get lost, and the GOP paid for it. Interestingly, both Iowa and Nevada, where Ron Paul supporters gained control of the state party, both went to Obama after the Romney campaign actively fought to disenfranchise Ron Paul supporters. I guess the GOP got what it wanted there.


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    So what are you saying, ponch, that the Ron Paul voters stayed home? Maybe so.

    It's hard to compete against Santa Claus, where everything is free, taken from someone else to give it to you, when you don't have to work, just take the freebies.

    BTW, Hispanics are largely Catholilc and they voted Democratic. Marco Rubio as VP pick might have helped there.

    But I really don't think anything would have made a difference. Our Nation has Changed - and it is beyond turning back.
     
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    poncho you need to change your reading habits!
     
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    I really thought the American people had enough of Obama but I was wrong. Very sad!
     
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    Actually, LE, I don't think the 250 Ron Paulites not voting would have made a difference.
     
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    I voted for Ron. He's an avowed Christian and had solid stances on the issues.:thumbsup:
     
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    I will agree with one point. The Republicans are fully responsible for the Democrats being in control of the Senate. Todd Akin, and the other idiot Republican nominee from Indiana, neither of whom have any common sense, chose to run their big mouths without thinking, and handed the Democrats two seats on a silver platter. It is stunts like this that damage our nation as much as electing Obama.
     
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    Why yes, an exact reflection of you.
     
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    I don't know what Ron Paul people did during the election but I saw how we were treated by republicans when we tried to work through that party.

    Republicans weren't interested in protecting our liberties, a sane foreign policy or sound money. Turns out they were only interested in the same thing as the democrats. Gaining an advantage over the other party so they could reap the benefits of sleeping with the special interests.

    Socialism doesn't work maybe we have to find that out as a nation before any real change can take place. We're about to enter a dark place. Maybe we'll come out the other side a little wiser. I hope so.

    Things are already looking up for the libertarian party. :thumbs:


    Ya think? Got any suggestions OR? How about a yearly subscription to the American Fascist?

    I hear that's all the rage in democratic and republican circles these days. :smilewinkgrin:
     
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    Just what we need, legalization of marijuana, drugs and prostititution, along with no legal controls on abortion or gay marriage.
     
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    Your references to the Libertarian Party and "a sane foreign policy" warrant further discussion. Take a look for me to start a new thread so you can chime in over there.
     
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    Please do. This should be interesting......:flower:
     
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    Perhaps we might mosey on over to this thread!
     
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    No problem I look forward to it however I have plans for the next couple of days so you may have to hold my place for a little bit. :smilewinkgrin:
     

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