Repent and Live in the Old Testiment

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    Deuteronomy 2 :
    24 “Set out now and cross the Arnon Gorge. See, I have given into your hand Sihon the Amorite, king of Heshbon, and his country. Begin to take possession of it and engage him in battle. 25 This very day I will begin to put the terror and fear of you on all the nations under heaven. They will hear reports of you and will tremble and be in anguish because of you.”

    26 From the Desert of Kedemoth I sent messengers to Sihon king of Heshbon offering peace and saying, 27 “Let us pass through your country. We will stay on the main road; we will not turn aside to the right or to the left. 28 Sell us food to eat and water to drink for their price in silver. Only let us pass through on foot — 29 as the descendants of Esau, who live in Seir, and the Moabites, who live in Ar, did for us—until we cross the Jordan into the land the Lord our God is giving us.” 30 But Sihon king of Heshbon refused to let us pass through. For the Lord your God had made his spirit stubborn and his heart obstinate in order to give him into your hands, as he has now done.

    31 The Lord said to me, “See, I have begun to deliver Sihon and his country over to you. Now begin to conquer and possess his land.”

    32 When Sihon and all his army came out to meet us in battle at Jahaz, 33 the Lord our God delivered him over to us and we struck him down, together with his sons and his whole army. 34 At that time we took all his towns and completely destroyed[The Hebrew term refers to the irrevocable giving over of things or persons to the Lord, often by totally destroying them; also in verse 26.] them—men, women and children. We left no survivors

    Deuteronomy 7
    Driving Out the Nations
    7 When the Lord your God brings you into the land you are entering to possess and drives out before you many nations —the Hittites, Girgashites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites, seven nations larger and stronger than you— 2 and when the Lord your God has delivered them over to you and you have defeated them, then you must destroy them totally.[The Hebrew term refers to the irrevocable giving over of things or persons to the Lord, often by totally destroying them; also in verse 26.] Make no treaty with them, and show them no mercy. 3 Do not intermarry with them. Do not give your daughters to their sons or take their daughters for your sons, 4for they will turn your children away from following me to serve other gods, and the Lord’s anger will burn against you and will quickly destroy you.

    1 Samuel 15

    15 Samuel said to Saul, “I am the one the Lord sent to anoint you king over his people Israel; so listen now to the message from the Lord. 2 This is what the Lord Almighty says: ‘I will punish the Amalekites for what they did to Israel when they waylaid them as they came up from Egypt. 3 Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy[The Hebrew term refers to the irrevocable giving over of things or persons to the Lord, often by totally destroying them; also in verse 26.] all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.’” 5 This is what you are to do to them: Break down their altars, smash their sacred stones, cut down their Asherah poles[That is, wooden symbols of the goddess Asherah; here and elsewhere in Deuteronomy] and burn their idols in the fire. 6 For you are a people holy to the Lord your God. The Lord your God has chosen you out of all the peoples on the face of the earth to be his people, his treasured possession.

    Exodus 19:5
    Now if you obey me fully and keep my covenant, then out of all nations you will be my treasured possession. Although the whole earth is mine,6 you[Or possession, for the whole earth is mine. 6 You] will be for me a kingdom of priests and a holy nation.’ These are the words you are to speak to the Israelites.”

    Leviticus 19:34
    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.


    Deuteronomy 10:18
    He defends the cause of the fatherless and the widow, and loves the foreigner residing among you, giving them food and clothing.


    Deuteronomy 10:19
    And you are to love those who are foreigners, for you yourselves were foreigners in Egypt.


    Exodus 12 :
    48 “A foreigner residing among you who wants to celebrate the Lord’s Passover must have all the males in his household circumcised; then he may take part like one born in the land. No uncircumcised male may eat it. 49 The same law applies both to the native-born and to the foreigner residing among you.”

    Ezekiel 18 :
    32 For I take no pleasure in the death of anyone, declares the Sovereign Lord. Repent and live!


    Do you think God did the same thing with them as He did with Nineveh and gave them a chance to repent and live, before sending the Israelite to destroy them?

    How did Rahab learn about them and the one true God?

    I have to put Jesus word to confirm!!


    Luke 6 :
    Love for Enemies

    27 “But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, 28 bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. 29 If someone slaps you on one cheek, turn to them the other also. If someone takes your coat, do not withhold your shirt from them. 30 Give to everyone who asks you, and if anyone takes what belongs to you, do not demand it back. 31 Do to others as you would have them do to you.

    32 “If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners love those who love them. 33 And if you do good to those who are good to you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners do that. 34 And if you lend to those from whom you expect repayment, what credit is that to you? Even sinners lend to sinners, expecting to be repaid in full. 35 But love your enemies, do good to them, and lend to them without expecting to get anything back. Then your reward will be great, and you will be children of the Most High, because he is kind to the ungrateful and wicked. 36 Be merciful, just as your Father is merciful.


    Matthew 5:
    48 Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.
     
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    What does the text say?

    Rahab learned about the LORD through the stories of Israel's victories over the Amorites.
     
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    God made a message to pass through just like the lands before them , because for what ever happen God made his spirit stubborn and his heart obstinate in order to give him into Israelite hands, as he has now done?

    Why would God do that when God does not take pleasure in the death of anyone, but for them to repent and live?

    What is as he has he now done?
     
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    It seems there are those who believe God just harden the hearts of whole nations, so He could prove His might and bring fear of all nations that go against His people that they were given no hope for salvation.

    What I see is God gave them a chance to repent and live just like Nineveh. So then God harden their hearts of those nations and gave them over to their own evil desire and when they went up against Israel they lost. To show nations His might and people like Rahab a Gentile could turn to God and live. That God has made a way for Gentiles to enter into the covenant from the beginning and to be treated as if they was a Jew. To be included with them.

    To say God of mercy did not give them a chance to repent and live I don't see it.

    We are to be merciful just as our Father in heaven is merciful. To enemies of God?
     
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