Return of the Dust Bowl? Climate change study highlights how West must adapt.

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  1. Crabtownboy

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    This is not good news.



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    Except the so called climate science has been completely discredited because of fudged numbers and withheld study info.
     
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    Don't feed the troll.
     
  4. Bro. James

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    Man continues to reap as he has sown for the last 6,000 years. Droughts, famines, and pestilence are part of the end of time reaping.

    Inventory the survival gear and get ready to hunker down. It ain't over yet.

    Pseudo-scientific research 101: You have to skew the data to get/keep the funding.

    Even so, come, Lord Jesus.

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    Groundwater depletion and Colorado River running dry has been an ongoing serious problem out there before 'climate change' ever came into the picture.

    The logical solution has been for quite some time, before 'climate change', to divert fresh water from Lake Superior to the Southwest. Imagine war with Canada over Great Lakes water rights.
     
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  6. kyredneck

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    Nuclear-powered seawater desalination will become common in the future, especially with the development of the new Gen 4 reactors.

    Necessity is the mother of invention. I'm sure the best way to pipe it to where it's needed will be found.
     
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    I guess that this means no more exercising in yoga pants by the lakefront.
     
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    :thumbsup:

    This will be good news for the California farms.
     
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    I don't know much about farming but I do know that a contributing factor to the dust bowl was the US government Department of Agriculture telling farmers that they could plow the dust bowl in the same old way. Later new ways of plowing and land management came into being.

    So much of the blame for the erosion of the dust bowl has to be placed on government.
     
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    What is the half-life of the daughter products in the radioactive cooling water? We still have a major problem with nuclear energy: control of radioactive waste.

    Anybody read an update on Chernobyl lately? See also the latest from Bikini Atoll.

    "Water, water, everywhere; nor a drop to drink," from: Rime of the Ancient Mariner, Sam Coleridge, 1797.

    Has anyone looked into harnessing termite flatulence?

    Even so, come, Lord Jesus.

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    Wrong. Totally. You need to educate yourself on the Gen 4 reactors. They use radioactive waste for fuel.

    If you get a chance, see the documentary 'Pandora's Promise'.

    Did you know that a fingertip sized piece of uranium contains the energy of 5,000 barrels of oil?

    Have you heard of the new 4th generation Integral Fast Reactors (IFR) that are basically failsafe and will 'burn' used nuclear waste/fuel?

    Covers some interesting facts on Three Mile Island, Fukushima, and Chernobyl.

    France is way ahead of everyone else in the area of nuclear power (80% electricity from nukes).

    Solar and wind is an absolute joke as a replacement for fossil fuel, nuclear could easily do it.

    Did you know U.S. has been buying up Russian warheads and using the fuel to generate electricity?

    What about all the hot air here on the BB? What a total waste of energy.
     
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    An answer must be found. I live in the San Joaquin Valley and we are having yet another dry winter. Our ground water is getting scarce. Many wells have dried up and this year many more will follow. We have a neighbor that committed suicide because he lost everything to the drought. There is good reason to believe that even if we start having wet winters the ground water will not recover. People are getting desperate here and the food supply is at risk. If you think food prices are high now, wait until a lot more farmers have to let their fields go fallow for lack of a way to irrigate them.
     
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    I saw the drought first hand this summer. And then i went spent a night in Las Vegas on the way home. The Colorado river doesn't reach the ocean. California's farms can't get water, and Las Vegas throws it everywhere. I also saw the Columbia river dumping fresh water in the Pacific. Why can't we build a pipeline to give the California farmers some relief ?
     
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    That's sad. You all have my prayers. I'm old enough to have gone through a handful of droughts even here in Kentucky. My well went dry in the drought of 88 which moved me to, after doing some research, build a very large cistern that catches rainwater which we still use today.

    It sounds like an agricultural/economic catastrophe in the making out there, for us all. Lord have mercy.
     
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    ...and I'm amazed, astounded actually, that some of the extremist right wingnuts on board haven't posted, blaming Obama for the drought.
     
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    Totally hog-wash; every teen thru octogenarian knows it was "Bush's fault"!!!!!:laugh:
     
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    Much of the problems in California with water are due to the on going drought but they are also caused by diverting water away from crucial farm land in the name of protecting so called endangered and rare species of fish, etc. The so called protection of fish, etc., take precedence over farming and other human needs. Climate Change isn't the real problem. The real problem are idiots who would have us living in grass huts and wiping our rear ends with our hands.
     
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    That's an idiotic conclusion.

    The fact of the matter is that there is now too many people in the Southwest USA for the amount of water that is available for wildlife AND civilization. This has been brewing long before environmentalist whackos arrived on the scene, just as long before 'climate change' came into the picture.

    Either get more water into the region or expect HUGE migrations out of the region in the future.
     
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    An idiotic right wingnut conclusion I might add. I knew some of you would eventually arrive on the scene to blame 'the left'.
     
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    Re: Gen 4, IFR and such--this kind of stuff was funded for R&D from 44-94--not necessarily with the same vigor with every administration. The funding was flat cut out in 94 Sir William from Clinton.

    More R&D is needed, especially in the recycling the fuel department. The technology to commercially make an affordable kilowatt is not presently available. We may not have enough red ink to spend on such things. Better to spend the money on getting gold from seawater.

    A lot of this kind of stuff is feasible but not affordable.

    Interesting: the DOE was told to stop collecting a fee($25B??so far) for nuclear waste disposal. See New York Times, Matthew L. Wald, 11/19/13.

    Bottom line: the oil guys probably will lobby nuclear energy all the way past our great, great grandkids.

    Bikini Atoll is still a good example of how bureaucrats/politicians deal with public health and science. The safe levels of radiation were not safe after all. See also the sheep farmers down wind from nuclear tests in Utah.

    Even so, come, Lord Jesus.

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