Rick Warren out on the edge again...

This is THIRD PERSON talking, not either Warren or the doctors. Are you going to take someone's commentary on what he believes is the case...or will you investigate this yourself and go directly to the source? It's apparent it's easier to take someone's commentary on it.

 

Have you gone directly to the source...yes or no? Why not drop RW or Saddleback an email with your concerns, or is it just easier to take what someone else is saying about him and his diet plan and who he is taking advice from? Can you show where he is using eastern mysticism in the plan, because from what I saw briefly from the site I can't find it. Where is it? Oh I know, someone says that Amen intends to yadda, yadda, yadda.

Why do you have such an agenda against the man?

 

Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?

 

You have to be trendy if you're in Hollywood.:thumbs:

Washington Post:

Angelina is on the Ethiopian Diet

 

The REAL Daniel plan from Scripture resulted in Daniel and his friends being "fatter in flesh" (Daniel 1:15 ESV).

Yet:
Rick Warren Loses 8 Pounds in Saddleback's Health Plan

 

Rich Should Review Romans 1:15-25

It is not for those of faith to mix in the teachings of the world and other religions with what we profess and believe.

The Word of God gives great advice on losing weight. Do all things in prayerful supplication and most importantly, exercise moderation?

Maybe this is too simple for Pastor Rick, but the Bible, prayer, and faith should be more than adequate to assist him in losing the excess weight and keeping it off!

To add Yoga, metaphysical studies, Hindu practices, etc., seems like a desperate act on his behalf.

My suggestion to Pastor Rick would be to try some extra physical exercise, i.e., pushing himself away from the table after that first helping. :laugh:

Paul told the Romans, and the church in general, " . . . for my part, I am willing and eagerly ready to preach the Gospel to you also who are in Rome. For I am not ashamed of the Gospel (good news) of Christ, for it is God's power working unto salvation [for deliverance from eternal death] to everyone who believes with a personal trust and a confident surrender and firm reliance, to the Jew first and also to the Greek, For in the Gospel a righteousness which God ascribes is revealed, both springing from faith and leading to faith [disclosed through the way of faith that arouses to more faith]. As it is written, The man who through faith is just and upright shall live and shall live by faith.

For God's [holy] wrath and indignation are revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who in their wickedness repress and hinder the truth and make it inoperative. For that which is known about God is evident to them and made plain in their inner consciousness, because God [Himself] has shown it to them.

For ever since the creation of the world His invisible nature and attributes, that is, His eternal power and divinity, have been made intelligible and clearly discernible in and through the things that have been made (His handiworks). So [men] are without excuse [altogether without any defense or justification], Because when they knew and recognized Him as God, they did not honor and glorify Him as God or give Him thanks. But instead they became futile and godless in their thinking [with vain imaginings, foolish reasoning, and stupid speculations] and their senseless minds were darkened.

Claiming to be wise, they became fools [professing to be smart, they made simpletons of themselves]. And by them the glory and majesty and excellence of the immortal God were exchanged for and represented by images, resembling mortal man and birds and beasts and reptiles.

Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their [own] hearts to sexual impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves [abandoning them to the degrading power of sin], Because they exchanged the truth of God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, Who is blessed forever! Amen (so be it)."

Of course, this is my own opinion, but, I'd steer my boat around that ship.

Shalom,

Pastor Paul :type:

 

This really shouldn't surprise anyone. Warren has always tried to blend Christianity with worldly ways. Warren has a long history of promoting men of false beliefs. I truly believe he thinks he is doing good but we must warn fellow Christians when we see anyone bringing false beliefs in the church. I've seen Warrenism ruin a once solid Baptist church and I will never endorse his ways unless he repents.

 

Great Post Brother

You get a big AMEN!:jesus:

 

Thanks...

Thanks AiC. I could never really get into the Purpose Driven Life thing, even when our church endorsed it and held in-home Bible studies using that book. The Bible studies were in place of Sunday evening services.

The pastor did this twice a year [held 8 week in-home Bible studies in place of Sunday night church], but, he has since seen the error in his way :laugh: and went back to Sunday evening services.

About the only thing the small groups accomplished was improving fellowship with people we normally would never have sat down and shared with.

We didn't always use the Purpose Driven Life book, but, the concept of small home Bible studies was born out of the book.

BTW, each week saw the number attending, dwindle.

This mixing the world with the Gospel is a sad event. My upcoming book addresses this problem and calls for the believer to return to the narrow path, exiting from the "Highway to Hell!"

So, again, thanks for the post and the recent info. You have hit on a great topic. It is sad more are not involved in this post. :sleeping_2:

Shalom,

Pastor Paul

 

Small groups (Sunday School) and home bible studies were around long before Warren mentioned them.

 

I see...you haven't gone to him directly to ask him still?

 

Define "worldly ways". Worldly means sinful, so I'm sure you can supply how his ministry blends sin into his ministry.

 

Agreed. Anyone stating RW started small groups has no business critiquing his ministry or his means.

 

That is Not the Point

Had you read a little closer. You'd have read that I stated our church started these groups pursuant to the pastoral staff reading PDL. They went PDL gaga for a few years, in hopes of tapping into Warrens mega-church recipe of success!

I know there were small home groups before Warren, and there will be small home groups after him. I never stated he was the originator of small home groups. I just pointed out that PDL was the impetus behind these groups. And the first two groups used the PDL as the study material and discussion drivers!

Sorry if I wasn't more clear in the beginning. :tonofbricks:

Pastor Paul :type:

 

I am not a Rick Warren fan at all, but I was wondering if you are keeping a list of thing he must repent. Make sure that you if you are keeping a list you are not using a plank to write on.