rockin' out

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  1. timothy 1769

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    hi.

    is there anything wrong with just rocking out? i'm not addressing lyrics here at all. putting on a good rock record, turning it as loud as you can stand, and just being transported by the heavy rhythm and riffs?

    what can i say? i like it a whole lot, and find it extremely enjoyable. it's a very physical reaction. it makes we want to move, and i feel it's power, and feel powerful too.

    comparisons to sex or recreational drug use are not out of the question, imo.

    however, it doesn't make we want to rape people, kill them, or offer sacrifices to the devil. [​IMG]

    i've been doing this a lot less, i don't know it's been months since the last time. i recently picked up the latest o.c supertones record, and while it has very good christian lyrics, truthfully i was just barely paying attention - i was mainly just rocking out.

    this disturbs me a little. so if i stop rocking out, is that good? or would i just be giving up a harmless pleasure? perhaps sex is a good comparison - very pleasurable but not sinful in the right context? i'm confused. :(
     
  2. Bro. Curtis

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    Don't expect to be un-confused, here.

    I don't listen to much heavy metal, but I'm pretty sure the same thing happens to me when I listen to jazz. I get transported, to another place, the dissonance and antiphony sound beautiful, to me. I "get off", for want of a better term.

    The same feeling happens when I see a grand-slam that ties a baseball game in the late innings, or when I'm able to fix something at work that noone else could.

    IMO, nothing wrong with it. In moderation, I suppose. I would worry if that was all you did, but it doesn't sound like it.

    If you keep reading the word, staying in prayer, you will know if God doesn't want you doing something.

    Take care.
     
  3. Mike McK

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  4. timothy 1769

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    mike, i love ya, man!!!!!

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    but i'm still confused...
     
  5. Mike McK

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    You don't sound confused in all of the "rock is bad" threads you've posted in.

    I've got to be honest: I think you posted some of the language you posted just to get a rise out of the more rabid anti contemporary music people here.
     
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    that's a false accusation, brother.

    i'm confused. in questionable areas like this, i don't know what the right thing is. my opinions are in flux. to be honest, getting this repsonse from someone i respect is hurtful.
     
  7. Mike McK

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    If you're sincere, then I'm sorry but I question using the language you used when you should know by now what the reactions are going to be.
     
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    well, that i may be stupid, THAT i can accept [​IMG]

    if you have the time, please send me a pm criticizing my language, perhaps i can learn something.
     
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    Mike, I thought the rolling eyes were for me. I guess I was a little mad at you, and then saw what I think you were doing.

    I thought I said some good stuff, and when the eyes came, it was like "gee, what did I do ?"

    Yup. I was mad. Good thing I didn't spout off.
     
  10. Mike McK

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    No, that wasn't it at all, Curtis. I even agree with you to a point.

    What the eyes were for was his comparing the effects to sex and drugs.

    That just gives the usual pharisees an excuse to say, "A-Ha!" and say that there's some validity to this David Clown nonsense.
     
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    Quick! Bury the body!!! [​IMG]

    two out of three validate the "David Clown nonsense" (it's not his to own, by the way, it's shared by some of us....) and the last is in denial. ;)

    Now, the question is, is this "rush" acceptable by God?
     
  12. Travelsong

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    I truly am confused. What I feel when listening to rock and roll or folk or techno or classical orwhatever is no different than what I feel when singing a beautiful hymn.I'm not talking about the worship aspect of singing, but the feeling that the music itself elicits.Good music is just good music.
     
  13. timothy 1769

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    travel, i don't know, maybe it's different for different people? there's other kinds of music i really really like, like beethoven's symphonies, but they don't produce the same effect as really loud rock music (on me).
     
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    That is universal, not culture specific. People behave the same way in rock concerts everywhere from Japan to Indonesia to Australia.

    If people were honest enough, they'd admit that different music evokes different kinds of feelings. You don't see people gyrating at a classical music concert. Not because it is not socially acceptable but because the music does not evoke that kind of (bodily) response.
     
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    What body? It's allegedly one person's anecdotal account.

    Ok then, your nonsense.
     
  16. Su Wei

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    What body? It's allegedly one person's anecdotal account.

    Ok then, your nonsense.
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    What body? It's allegedly one person's anecdotal account.

    why does it seem so likely to you that i'm lying?
     
  18. Su Wei

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    and it's not one person, Bro. Curtis "admitted" too. And you can add me. i know i don't feel the same when i used to listen to rock.
     
  19. Su Wei

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    i've come to expect nothing but insulent remarks from Mike.
     
  20. Travelsong

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    How many rock concerts have you been to? I have Seen, Beck, Bob Dylan, U2, Radiohead, R.E.M., The White Stripes, Doves and countelss others where the only obvious sin in the audience was the the telltale odor of marijuana.You want to make everyone believe that rock concerts are nothing more than heathen satanic sex orgies, this is where you display your true ignorance about rock music.You've got your head filled with ideas from the Hell's Bells video where most of the bands featured were like AC/DC, Van Halen and bona fide satanist groups.The fact is there is quite alot of rock and roll out there which does not celebrate depravity.As an ex U2 fan, you of all people should be honest enough to admit as much.I can forgive Aaron's ignorance in as much as he is simply displaying hatred for something he doesn't understand, but you are being incredibly unfair.
    I am not talking about the way people respond to music, but the raw feeling that music elicits.Gyrating is not a feeling. I clearly do not feel the compulsion to gyrate or display any kind of sexual behaviour no matter what music I listen to.You need to deal with that reality.I enjoy good music no matter what style it is.Although I have different reactions to different styles of music, the positive feeling that good music elicits from me is always essentially the same.In other words I am equally inclined to crank Beethoven's 9th as I am to crank The White Stripes "Dead Leaves on a Dirty Ground".I love great music, it is as simple as that.Music does not elicit a sinful response in me, I don't know how to make it any clearer.
     

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