Most likely this will be different than what you have heard before. Generally when Romans 7 is debated as to why it is a lost man Paul is describing, chapters 6 and 8 are contrasted to 7 because of the polar opposites and rightly so. There are a number of verses in 7 itself that are pointed out as well. Verses like 9, 14, 23, and 25b. Also the fact that Paul starts off in past tense in verse 7 continuing to verse 13. Those of us that hold to this as a lost man say Paul is using historical present tense from verse 14-25, after setting the stage in past tense in 7:7-13. On the other side, when it is defended as a saved man verses like 22, and 25a are listed. Also the tenses being present tense in verses 14-25 are factored in. For the most part, I think most of us have heard both sides of the debate, so for now I will not get to much into that part. What I intend to do is show that it is a lost man, but from another perspective. More than 90% of this is my own personal studies over a number of years. In Romans 6:15 Paul asks the question, What then? shall we sin, because we not under the law, but under grace? God forbid. This kicks off a series of verses reiterating his main points he has made in his letter thus far and just so no one will misunderstand where he is going with his argument he lays out a few more verses pointing to where he is going. You could call this a set of instructions or a blue print to understanding Romans 1-8. I know there are a lot of details throughout Romans 1-8, but this is his main points I believe he wants us to know at this point for arguments sake. This is how it will look. Romans 6:16 is about Romans 1:18-3:20. Romans 6:17 is about Romans 3:21 through the end of chapter 4. Romans 6:18 is about Romans 5. Romans 6:19 is about Romans 6 through 7:6. present tense Romans 6:20 and 21 is about Romans 7:7-25. past tense Romans 6:22 and 23 is about Romans 8. present tense We will break this down and discuss it, but for now, so you will know where I'm going with this, you will notice the verse I listed for chapter 6 is in the present tense, the verses I listed for 7:7-25 are in the past tense, and then it returns to present tense in the verses I listed for chapter 8. If this were the only place Paul does this it would still be enough to convince us chapter 7 is indeed a lost man, but this is not the only place he does this. In fact Paul does this more than a half dozen times in Romans 5-8 in some degree or another. Some only cover chapters 5-8 and others 6-8, but every time where chapter 7 is listed it is always, without exception, past tense or a lost man condition, always! Thats not all, Paul uses the same method in another chapter of another book he wrote. We will get into that later.