Rome is still facinated with bones..

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  1. ReformedBaptist

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    http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/06/22/ancient-icons-apostles-peter-paul-rome/?test=latestnews

    The Reformation isn't over.

    ROME — The earliest known icons of the Apostles Peter and Paul have been discovered in a catacomb under an eight-story modern office building in a working-class neighborhood of Rome, Vatican officials said Tuesday.

    The images, which date from the second half of the 4th century, were discovered on the ceiling of a tomb that also includes the earliest known images of the apostles John and Andrew. They were uncovered using a new laser technique that allowed restorers to burn off centuries of thick white calcium carbonate deposits without damaging the dark colors of the original paintings underneath.

    The paintings adorn what is believed to be the tomb of a Roman noblewoman in the Santa Tecla catacomb and represent some of the earliest evidence of devotion to the apostles in early Christianity, Vatican officials said in opening up the tomb to the media for the first time.

    Last June, the Vatican announced the discovery of the icon of Paul — timed to coincide with the end of the Vatican's Pauline year. At the time, Pope Benedict XVI also announced that tests on bone fragments long attributed to Paul "seemed to confirm" that they did indeed belong to the Roman Catholic saint.
     
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    What is even more disgusting and appalling is that the article calls the Apostle Paul a "Roman Catholic Saint"

    How putrid.
     
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    Suprising you put any store on Roman Catholic Dogma....even they know they are twisted ...... enough said.
     
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    What are you talking about? Your sentence doesn't make sense to me. Can you explain? What does it mean to put any store into something?
     
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    Why do you people hate Catholics so much?
     
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    I don't hate Catholics. I hate Roman Catholicism.
     
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    I'm glad I'm not one of those "all Catholics are going to hell" people.
     
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    >What are you talking about? Your sentence doesn't make sense to me. Can you explain? What does it mean to put any store into something?

    It is a common expression. Any literate person should understand.

    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/set store by

    Main Entry: 1set
    Pronunciation: \ˈset\
    Function: verb
    Inflected Form(s): set; set·ting
    Etymology: Middle English setten, from Old English settan; akin to Old High German sezzen to set, Old English sittan to sit
    Date: before 12th century
    transitive verb
    1 : to cause to sit : place in or on a seat
    2 a : to put (a fowl) on eggs to hatch them b : to put (eggs) for hatching under a fowl or into an incubator
    3 : to place (oneself) in position to start running in a race
    4 a : to place with care or deliberate purpose and with relative stability <set a ladder against the wall> <set a stone on the grave> b : transplant 1 <set seedlings> c (1) : to make (as a trap) ready to catch prey (2) : to fix (a hook) firmly into the jaw of a fish d : to put aside (as dough containing yeast) for fermenting
    5 : to direct with fixed attention <set your mind to it>
    6 a : to cause to assume a specified condition, relation, or occupation <slaves were set free> <set the house on fire> b : to cause the start of <set a fire>
    7 a : to appoint or assign to an office or duty b : post, station
    8 : to cause to assume a specified posture or position <set the door ajar>
    9 a : to fix as a distinguishing imprint, sign, or appearance <the years have set their mark on him> b : affix c : apply <set a match to kindling>
    10 : to fix or decide on as a time, limit, or regulation : prescribe <set a wedding day> <set the rules for the game>
    11 a : to establish as the highest level or best performance <set a record for the half mile> b : to furnish as a pattern or model <set an example of generosity> c : to allot as a task <setting lessons for the children to work upon at home — Manchester Examiner>
    12 a : to adjust (a device and especially a measuring device) to a desired position <set the alarm for 7:00> <set a thermostat at 68>; also : to adjust (as a clock) in conformity with a standard b : to restore to normal position or connection when dislocated or fractured <set a broken bone> c : to spread to the wind <set the sails>
    13 a : to put in order for use <set a place for a guest> b : to make scenically ready for a performance <set the stage> c (1) : to arrange (type) for printing <set type by hand> (2) : to put into type or its equivalent (as on film) <set the first word in italic>
    14 a : to put a fine edge on by grinding or honing <set a razor> b : to bend slightly the tooth points of (a saw) alternately in opposite directions c : to sink (the head of a nail) below the surface
    15 : to fix in a desired position (as by heating or stretching)
    16 : to arrange (hair) in a desired style by using implements (as curlers, rollers, or clips) and gels or lotions
    17 a : to adorn with something affixed or infixed : stud, dot <clear sky set with stars> b : to fix (as a precious stone) in a border of metal : place in a setting c : to place in a specified literary or dramatic setting <a story set in Paris>
    18 a : to hold something in regard or esteem at the rate of <sets a great deal by daily exercise> b : to place in a relative rank or category <set duty before pleasure> c : to fix at a certain amount <set bail at $500> d : value, rate <their promises were set at naught> e : to place as an estimate of worth <set a high value on life>
    19 : to place in relation for comparison or balance <theory set against practice>
    20 a : to direct to action b : to incite to attack or antagonism <war sets brother against brother>
    21 a : to place by transporting <was set ashore on the island> b : to put in motion c : to put and fix in a direction <set our faces toward home once more> d of a dog : to point out the position of (game) by holding a fixed attitude
    22 : to defeat (an opponent or a contract) in bridge
    23 a : to fix firmly : make immobile : give rigid form or condition to <set her jaw in determination> b : to make unyielding or obstinate
    24 : to cause to become firm or solid <set milk for cheese>
    25 : to cause (as fruit or seed) to develop
    intransitive verb
    1 chiefly dialect : sit
    2 : to be becoming : be suitable : fit <the coat sets well>
    3 : to cover and warm eggs to hatch them
    4 a : to affect one with or as if with weight <the pudding sets heavily on my stomach> b : to place oneself in position in preparation for an action (as running)
    5 of a plant part : to undergo development usually as a result of pollination
    6 a : to pass below the horizon : go down <the sun sets> b : to come to an end <this century sets with little mirth — Thomas Fuller>
    7 : to apply oneself to some activity <set to work>
    8 : to have a specified direction in motion : flow, tend <the wind was setting from Pine Hill to the farm — Esther Forbes>
    9 of a dog : to indicate the position of game by crouching or pointing
    10 : to dance face to face with another in a square dance <set to your partner and turn>
    11 a : to become solid or thickened by chemical or physical alteration <the cement sets rapidly> b of a dye or color : to become permanent c of a bone : to become whole by growing together
    — set about : to begin to do
    — set apart 1 : to reserve to a particular use
    2 : to make noticeable or outstanding
    — set aside 1 : to put to one side : discard
    2 : to reserve for a purpose : save
    3 : dismiss
    4 : annul, overrule
    — set at : to mount an attack on : assail <would go although…devils should set at me — Charlotte Yonge>
    — set eyes on : to catch sight of
    — set foot in : enter
    — set foot on : to step onto
    — set forth 1 : to give an account or statement of
    2 : to start out on a journey
    — set forward 1 : further
    2 : to start out on a journey
    — set in motion : to give impulse to <sets the story in motion vividly — Howard Thompson>
    — set one's hand to : to become engaged in
    — set one's heart on : resolve vt 5 <she set her heart on going to medical school>
    — set one's house in order : to organize one's affairs
    — set one's sights on : to determine to pursue
    — set one's teeth on edge : irritate, annoy
    — set one straight : to correct someone by providing accurate information
    — set sail : to start out on a course; especially : to begin a voyage <set sail for Bermuda>
    — set store by or set store on : to consider valuable, trustworthy, or worthwhile
    — set the stage : to provide the basis or background <this trend will set the stage for higher earnings>
    — set to music : to provide music or instrumental accompaniment for (a text)
    — set upon : to attack usually with violence <the dogs set upon the trespassers>
     
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    Yes, Reformed Baptist, you hate Catholics. The Church is not made up of buildings, it is made up of people. Even Dr. Walter's who you so admire refers to us as 'filth'. At least he is honest about it.
     
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    Do you feel the flames flickering at your feet? Are you feeling a bit hot. Well guess what! The Great Harlot's going down! I'm sure RB and DW just want to lovingly say "You're getting Tombstoned by the Undertaker when judgment day comes!" Now understand that in love. They just are charitably letting you undertand that you're going to get Bar-b-qued and have your wounds filled with alchohol in the lake of fire. Don't mind the salvating. It happens when people are charitable.
     
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    Did you say "FILTH"? Question here, Is that kind of contensious language loving your neighbor?:BangHead:
     
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    He claimed that anyone who believes like myself that the church evolved over the years and changed regarding non-essentials was filth. So Catholics aren't alone. I 'm in that same boat. However, I feel loved.
     
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    I'm not Dr Walters but I think the reference to filth was towards the doctrine not the people, especially the trusting and vulnerable laity.

    Sometimes we are not articulate enough when we write and things can be misconstrued.

    In addition, there is a another sense that we are indeed all filthy in the sight of God and that's why He sent His Son to cleanse us with His blood.


    HankD
     
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    I do see the RC Churches in NYC feeding & clothing the indigent & destitute...Praise God.:thumbs:
     
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    The reason they do that is because they are the Great Harlot of Revelations! Sheeesh. Didn't you know that? I only call Roman Catholics whores because I love them and care about them and don't even consider that some may love God because My love is so great for them that I hope they burn in hell for being a part of the Apostate church.
     
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    I can say amen to your last sentence. And add so are my works they are as filthy rags to God. Praise God for his mercy!.
     
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    You entitled to your belief. I cannot make a blanket statement that I hate every person in communion with Rome. Everyone in communion with Rome and those who give their affects to the papacy, are enemies of the Gospel.

    So, all Roman Catholics are my enemy because I belong to Jesus.

    By Roman Catholicism I mean the papacy and doctrines of the papists..which thing I hate and detest, and I seek to do so both as God commands and how God Himself hates.

    Psalm 5:5
    The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.

    Psalm 26:5
    I have hated the congregation of evil doers; and will not sit with the wicked.

    Psalm 31:6
    I have hated them that regard lying vanities: but I trust in the LORD.

    Proverbs 8:13
    The fear of the LORD is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate.

    Revelation 2:6
    But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitanes, which I also hate.

    These are the Holy Scriptures of God. Why should I not hate the congregation of evil doers? Why should I not hate them that regard lying vanities? Why should I not fear the Lord and hate evil, pride, and arrogancy and the evil way?

    Why should I not hate the deeds and doctrines of false teachers?

    I think these things offend the western/american mind because they have a false concept of biblical hatred, or do not respect the Word of God as they ought. We tell men to hate the sin but love the sinner. Do you mean to charge Almighty God with evil or both hates iniquity and the workers thereof?

    Or are you so easily offended at the Word of God that you would pervert it to your own liking?
     
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    Did you happen to note all save Revelation 2:6 had to do with the way people live rather than their take on Christianity? I hate people like that as well. And the Nicolaitians believed what exactly?
     
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    THe Scriptures I quoted are quite plain. And quite applicable to bible-believers. Unless you advocate that God's Word of the Hebrew Scriptures are of no value?

    I have no idea what the Nicolaitians believed and taught. I do know that my Lord Jesus hated their doctrines. I do know that the true Christians hated their doctrines. And it is plain that it was false doctrine, and not according to the doctrine of Christ and His Apostles--just like papal doctrine, but papal doctrines are worse than Nicolatians I would think.
     
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    Then were do Methodists, PCUSA, Episcopals, United Church of Christ, Wesleyans, Anglicans, Congregationalists, Pentecostals etc all stand with you who call Roman Catholics Apostates?
     
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