Ron Paul and donations

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  1. Salty

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    In a coloum from his webpage Paul said "Free trade means no sanctions against Iran, or Cuba or anyone else for that matter. Entangling alliances with no one means no foreign aid to Pakistan, or Egypt, or Israel, or anyone else for that matter. If an American citizen determines a foreign country or cause is worthy of their money, let them send it, and encourage their neighbors to send money too"

    This came from Ron Paul's Texas Straight Talk www.house.gov/paul weekly column.

    So should Americian citizens have the "right" to send money to terrorists?
     
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    I believe you're asking the wrong question Salty. I think the proper question would be more like...should our government have the right to take our money and send it to terrorists, dictators and corrupt governments as this is exactly what it has been doing under the guise of "foreign aid" for many years.

    The fact is your money has been being sent to terrorists by your own government who claims to be fghting terrorism. Given a choice (which we aren't) I don't think many American citizens would knowingly send money to terrorists.

    And just what is a terrorist these days anyway? The government and media seem to be claiming that anyone who doesn't agree with government policy is a domestic terrorist or least a dangerous extremist who needs to be watched. You and I both seem to fit the government and media's description of extremist. So maybe now is the time for a real definition of terrorist. I think I know what your's is but I doubt very much if it's the same as the government's.
     
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  3. Salty

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    If you want to start a thread about another subject, go right ahead.

    But it looks like you don't want to answer the question in this thread. I don't know if you would be a good Statesman, but you would make an excellent politician.

    Salty


    PS, I just realized what I did - I dare questioned the "Only man who is able to prevent the great destruction" , Ron Paul
     
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    No, what you did was to skirt the whole premise of the article so you could try and make the false claim that Ron Paul is in favor of giving money to terrorists, which is nothing more than a cheap political trick. Isn't that what you were trying to do here?

    Do you think the "terrorists" would get more or less money from American citizens if foreign aid was done away with as should all such un-constitutional programs?
     
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    On the cited page I saw an excellent blog on the Free Market as Regulator, but didn't see this paragraph.
     
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    The OP asked "So should American citizens have the "right" to send money to terrorists?"

    Supposedly in this country, we have freedom. But are there limits?

    I use the same thinking in my driving class. Do we have religious freedom in this country? Groups such as the Amish do not want bright lights on their buggies. However, the govt says they must. Jehovah Witnesses do not believe in blood transfusions - but the govt will step in when children are involved. Therefore, "freedom of religion" is limited in the USA.

    So once again, I ask - regardless of who is the "mastermind"
    "So should American citizens have the "right" to send money to terrorists?"

    And Poncho - do you believe that Ron Paul believes that
    "American citizens have the "right" to send money to terrorists?" regardless of what the US govt is doing otherwise. BTW - this question for you is a simple YES or NO
     
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    Could be that the "link" is a weekly column, and is not current.

    I recd the info from the Constitution Party of NY.

    If someone would like for me to forward the email to them, I will be glad to do do.

    Salty
     
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    Just paste the whole email. I'd like to read the paragraph in context.
     
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    You read the article the rest of couldn't so maybe you should anwser the question. Or explain why you seem to assume Ron Paul thinks American citizens have the right to send money to "terrorists".

    What is a terrorist anyway? You never gave your definition. You seem to assume everyone shares the same one. Are you talking about Islamic militants, anti-abortionists, people who make frequent references to the U.S. constitution, carry cell phones and cameras, wear nice jeans, act respectable, cut people's heads off, protest against Bush and or Obama, etc, etc, as all these types of people at one time or another have been accused of being terrorists or supporting them by the same government who takes our money un-lawfully and sends it off to "freedom fighters" like the mujahideen and the jundallah on a regular basis.

    What is a terrorist Salty? Could a terrorist be someone who isn't being paid by uncle Sam to destabilize a foreign country? There's been enough of that going on throughout our history you know. Are these folks in our employ terrorists or do we call them foreign assets? Do American citizens have the right to send money to foreign assets? Those acting on "our" behalf while using terrorism to "make the world safe for democracy"?
     
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    yeah, good luck with that...
     
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    It was asked of Poncho, but I will answer.

    No, I do not believe that Ron Paul believes that "American citizens have the "right" to send money to terrorists."
     
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    Putting your faith in any one man isn't too awful smart Salty. It's not Ron Paul the man that you are questioning here it's what he stands for and that's more or less the same things our founders stood for.

    No foreign aid. None. Not to dictators. Not to terrorists. Not to freedom fighters. Not to corrupt governments. Not to favored trading partners. Not to Arabs. Not to Israelis. None.

    Don't keep trying to twist this into something it is not just because you don't like the idea of cutting off an un-constitutional program.
     

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