I guess this one is addressed to Bob Ryan. Bob, I have been reading many of your posts in this section and it seems we agree on much. We disagree on eternal security, but I do not accept this doctrine on a Calvinistic basis. I reject Calvinism as unscriptural for many if not most of the reasons you do. In fact, I personally know that there are hundreds of Baptist Churches (or more) that reject Calvinism on these same grounds. I’m not talking off the top of my hat either. I am a member of very influential (not bragging) Independent Fundamental Baptist Church, and we have a website (www.learnthebible.org) that gets thousands of visitors a day (check out the creation science section, it is mine). Because of this connectivity, and because I have a great deal of prior experience with Southern Baptist Churches (50 or so), I feel my statement is a reliable one. I don’t know what the percentages are, but my impression is that a majority of Baptists reject Calvinism. Of course I am referring to privately; publicly they virtually all reject it because it doesn’t fit with evangelism, as you so aptly point out. But my question to you is do you believe keeping the Sabbath is essential for salvation? I believe you have mentioned in places you do not accept White's teachings as being authoritative on the level with scripture (correct me if I am mistaken here). Is keeping the Sabbath essential for salvation in your view?