Are baptism and the Lord's supper signs/symbols only? Does God work through them in any way? Could He, as some believe, confirm and strengthen faith through these? Why not, unless you don't believe that God works through the physical? If the latter three questions are answered in the affirmative, could these rituals be considered sacraments? Is it possible to consider them sacraments without going to the extreme that most denominations do? Is it possible to consider them sacraments without making their administration the exclusive right of the clergy, restricting them to mediation by a special clergy class? Is it possible to thus have a Baptist view of these as sacraments? There is some evidence that I have read that the Anabaptists looked at baptism and the Lord's supper as more than just symbols, but they didn't adopt Protestant views of them as sacraments, either. It seems to me if we deny that God can and does work through physical means, we are denying reality and slipping into Gnosticism. So, do we baptize and partake of the Lord's supper only because we are being obedient to a command of Jesus, or is there more to these rituals than that?