Salvation!!!

DHK, I do think all Ten Commandments are for our benefit always. We are simply told not to judge one another on the day kept, which is why 3AngelsMom is unscriptural in her approach, as are all legalistic sabbatarians (yes, I know she is SDA).

Jesus told us the Sabbath was made for man. He did not tell us the Sabbath was made for the Jew. We need to take a day off to rest for our own benefit as well as to honor Him.

After all, long before the Hebrew people were formed, the earth was created in six days and God rested a day. That is our example -- from God, not even just from the Ten Commandments.

If you check Genesis and Exodus up to chapter 19, you will find that most of those Ten Commandments were already indicated as being known...

The Ten Commandments were never changed to the Nine Commandments and One Suggestion. Taking a day off to rest is still obedience to God.

It just doesn't have to be Saturday!

 

There is a warining somewhere near the entrance of this board: if you can't take the heat stay out. Your views will be challenged. As far as I know there is still freedom of speech in this nation, and on this board. May I remind you that you, as a SDA are the guest here. It is a Baptist board.

This is not an advertising board for Seventh Day Adventist heresies. Expect your damnable heresies to be challenged. And I say that kindly. Where there is heresy to be exposed I will expose it; you can count on it. The phrase "damnable heresies," which many of your doctrines are, is a biblical phrase, so don't get in a tizzy about it.
DHK

 

SHUT UP SINGER

Your advice is not needed here.

Singer

 

[ March 16, 2003, 01:41 AM: Message edited by: 3AngelsMom ]

 

3AngelsMom, DHK is right. This is a discussion board. Private conversations can be had via PM's or emails. But anyone who is 'keeping their feet of the furniture' is welcome to post in this part of the 'Baptist Board house.' You cannot tell people not to respond to you; you can only refuse to respond to them. That part is called 'self control'

 

Helen,
I agree with the principle taught in Genesis--and I believe it is only a principle, that man should have one day in seven in rest. If that is what you consider keeping the Sabbath, then so be it. But the SDA's are far more legalistic then that.
DHK

 

3AngelsMom, the best way to point out what you feel is the truth in response to a post that you don't feel is accurate is to use the terms in this sentence.

Say something like: I don't think that what you are saying is the whole story. Here is why:

and then post your reasons. Stay calm, stay reasonable, stay biblical, and you will get a lot of respect here even if people don't agree with you.

But cut the language and name-calling, folks. Or I may just tattle on you....

 

DHK,

I have never said that Sunday keepers were taking the mark of the beast.

Please do not misrepresent me.


Helen,

If I was not already a Sabbath keeper and I had read what you just posted about us keeping 'a' day, I would have asked you why God said a specific day.

It doesn't take a 'legalist' to see that GOD named a specific day.

God Bless

[ March 16, 2003, 01:27 AM: Message edited by: 3AngelsMom ]

 

God said to keep the seventh day.

Please show me where creation started on a Sunday and I'll accept Saturday as the seventh day.

In addition, Paul clearly said not to judge a man by the day he keeps Sabbath. You need to pay attention to the whole Bible and QUIT CALLING PEOPLE LIARS.

I mean that....

 

I know. I'm against the legalism. I'm for the Ten Commandments. It's not a principle. It's the fourth Commandment. Check Exodus 20.

 

[ March 16, 2003, 01:28 AM: Message edited by: 3AngelsMom ]

 

One additional question to 3AngelsMom -- you are in California as I am. It is still Saturday here. What on earth are you doing posting here if you are serious about Saturday being your Sabbath???

 

Paul didn't say not to judge WHEN someone keeps 'a sabbath'. He said not to let anyone judge you in KEEPING the Sabbath. So keep it, don't keep it, but don't let anyone judge you. That doesn't mean you can take ANY day and MAKE it holy and call it the Sabbath. Do you see what I mean? God made ONE day out of Seven HOLY. We can't make a day Holy. Only God can. We can only KEEP it holy.

God Bless

[ March 16, 2003, 01:42 AM: Message edited by: 3AngelsMom ]

 

Silly Helen.

Sabbath is from Sundown to sundown, midnight and 'saturday' are pagan.

And I continue to post on the Sabbath. This isn't work, and I am talking about God.

God Bless

 

I am not calling people liars. I quoted SDA doctrine and can docurment it from their own literature. Those not keeping the Sabbath, and worshiping on Sunday instead have the mark of the beast. Whether 3AM said that or not is irrelevant. That is SDA doctrine.

Here is what Paul said concerning the Sabbath:

Col.2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

The Sabbath day is a shadow. A shadow is an image, not the real thing. The real thing is Christ. Heb.4 explains very clearly that Christ is our Sabbath. We are to enter into his rest. He is our Rest, our Sabbath. The Old Testament Sabbath was fullfilled in Christ. It was only a shadow of Christ who was to come.

 

Do you accept that Jesus was crucified on Friday?

Do you accept that He rose on Sunday?

What is in between them?

God Bless

 

Seriously,

Do you have a reasonable bone in your body?

What does PLEASE mean to you?

That is not a COMMAND. It is a request.

Of course I know you CAN respond, but this topic you and I went over and over on already, and you and I both know you are just responding now to antagonize me.

Why?

God Bless

 

DHK, it was not you I was warning regarding not calling someone a liar. I was typing too fast I guess and should have made myself clear.

3AngelsMom, when you tell someone on a forum they are lying, you are calling them a liar. Don't.

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Now, about the Sabbath. DHK, the Tabernacle was simply a shadow of the heavenly reality, too, but real people were put to real death if they got too near where they should not be!

3AngelsMom, I forgot how legalistic legalistic people could be. Sundown to sundown, of course, how Jewish! But then you backed off from that by saying this was not work.

It's not rest, either....

The Pharisees did the same thing with their arguments, making special loopholes for themselves while increasing the rules for others. I think you can see Jesus' feelings about that in Matthew 23.

 

3AngelsMom, you are on a Baptist Board not an SDA board. Yes, we do consider some of what the SDA's teach to be unbiblical and possibly anti-biblical. If you don't like that, don't post here. And please don't ask DHK not to respond to you again. If you don't want him to respond, don't post.

 

Do you accept that Jesus was crucified on Friday?

Do you accept that He rose on Sunday?

What is in between them?

God Bless </font>[/QUOTE]1. I don't believe Jesus was crucified on Friday, but on Thursday.

2. The first day of the week then is not the first day of the week now. The calendars have been mixed pretty terrifically. Here is something you might be interested in:

http://www.ecben.net/calendar.shtml