The very "substance" of saving faith or that which provides the basis for "hope" of eternal life is not acquired by personal study nor is it obtained from "flesh and blood" but is obtained by direct revelation from God: Mt. 16:16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. 17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven. Gal. 1:15 But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother’s womb, and called me by his grace, 16 To reveal his Son in me, that I might preach him among the heathen; immediately I conferred not with flesh and blood: 2 Cor. 4:6 For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ. Heb. 12:2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; Jn 6:29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent. Jesus proves that saving faith is totally the work of God in John 6:29-65 by the fact that: 1. Coming to Christ by faith is the consequence of being given by the Father to the Son: 37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out. 38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me. 39 And this is the Father’s will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day. 2. Universal Inability to come to the Son Jn. 6:44 - "no man can come unto me except the Father draw him" 3. Coming to Christ by faith is the consequence of being drawn by the Father to the Son Jn. 6:44 - "no man can come unto me except the Father draw him"[/COLOR] 4. There are "disciples" whom the Father never gave or drew to the Son and thus not all men without exception are drawn by the Father but only "all" whom the Father has given to the Son. Jn. 6:64 But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him. 65 And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father. I did not write this for those on this forum who are spiritually blinded and hate these truths but for those who have eyes to see and ears to hear.