Senator Rand Paul Is Accused of Plagiarizing

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    WASHINGTON — Senator Rand Paul, the Kentucky Republican who is among his party’s top 2016 presidential prospects, has found himself accused of plagiarism. But this case has an odd twist. Mr. Paul appears to have lifted words for a speech this week from a Wikipedia entry about a futuristic movie, “Gattaca,” which imagines a world with a population that has been genetically engineered.

    The senator was trying to make a point about eugenics, saying the United States was veering dangerously close to eliminating people whom society considered to be undesirable. In doing so, he made a reference to the movie and twice spoke lines that were virtually word for word from the Wikipedia description of the plot of “Gattaca,” which was released in 1997.

    The speech contained this line: “In the not-too-distant future, eugenics is common, and DNA plays a primary role in determining your social class.”

    The Wikipedia entry reads: “In ‘the not-too-distant future,’ liberal eugenics is common, and DNA plays the primary role in determining social class.”


    In an op-ed article he wrote for The Washington Times in September on mandatory minimum prison sentences, Mr. Paul, a Republican, appears to have copied language from an essay that had previously run in The Week magazine.

    That article, written by Dan Stewart, an editor for The Week, included this sentence: “America now jails a higher percentage of its citizens than any other country, including China and Iran, at the staggering cost of $80 billion a year.” It was posted to the web on Sept. 14.

    On Sept. 20, Mr. Paul wrote this: “America now jails a higher percentage of its citizens than any other country, including China and Iran, at the staggering cost of $80 billion a year.”

    Mr. Paul’s article also mentioned a case involving a Florida man, John Horner, who was sentenced to a minimum of 25 years for selling painkillers. “John will be 72 years old by the time he is released, and his three young children will have grown up without him,” Mr. Paul wrote.

    Mr. Stewart’s version: “He will be 72 by the time he is released, and his three young children will have grown up without him.”

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/31/u...of-plagiarizing-his-lines-from-wikipedia.html

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/05/us/politics/senator-rand-paul-faces-new-charges-of-plagiarism.html

    http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/rand-paul-has-given-speeches-plagarized-from-wikipedia-befor
     
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    Forty views and not one defense from the (many) Rand Paul zealots on this board? Not even an attempt to deflect by bringing up Biden's many plagiarisms? Or the old chestnut that he's being dogged by the liberal media?
     
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    Unlike liberals conservative do not just blindly defend these kinds of things. But you are welcome to taunt all you want. I just realized my ignore list needs to get a bit longer.
     
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    Excerpted from Rare: MSNBC host Rachel Maddow created headlines this week when she alleged that Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) had plagiarized a recent speech from Wikipedia, but it turns out the liberal cable news host has been accused of plagiarism herself.

    In 2010 on his blog “Open Salon,” Michael Rodgers of North Port, Fla., wrote a blog post titled “Rachel Maddow Plagiarized My Blog!”

    http://patdollard.com/2013/10/rache...om-a-writer-didnt-just-quote-an-encyclopedia/

    Being accused of plagiarism is one thing being accused of plagiarism by a plagiarist is a whole nuther horse of a different color. Shame on Rand Paul for plagiarism and shame on his accusers for plagiarism and hypocrisy.



     
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    And the beat goes on ...............

     
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    Rand Paul copied someone else's homework? A scandal? Well shame on him.

    Can you democrats find something in Rand Paul's closet that even comes close to Obama's numerous scandals?

    Benghazigate? IRSgate? Millions losing their healthcare insurance, Obamacaregate? Running guns to Mexican drug cartels? Funding and arming Islamic extremists in Libya and Syria? Handing over trillions to crooked private bankers? NSAgate? Purging the military? Supporting the Muslim Brotherhood? The TPP?

    Am I leaving anything out? It's hard to keep track Obama is the first president (that I know of) to cover up one scandal by creating another.
     
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    If he did it, then he was wrong. But the explanation I've heard casts doubt on the claim that he did it. So I will neither defend nor condemn him.

    I would still vote for him.
     
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    No one's perfect. There are more important things affecting this nation and Rand is on the right side of them. Let's move on.
     
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    They can't move on. They're already committed to it.

    However, as stated earlier, power is a drug, one which the so-called “left” has been hooked on since the Obama Administration took its seat in the White House. While the Republicans have much to answer for (the Bush years are a nightmarish example), it is the Democratic Party, and those who blindly identify with it, that must be addressed today. It is they who are now directly feeding the elitist machine, giving it momentum, and aiding in the destruction of the American economy and culture. It is their madness and thirst for control that is being exploited by the establishment to demonize legitimate activists who seek Constitutional transparency (the only people in this country today who understand the bigger picture and who the real enemies are) thus undermining any chance our society has for a free and prosperous future.

    A new propaganda theater has exploded in mainstream media outlets and the liberal side of the blogosphere spectrum. This initiative centers on a not so subtle attempt to connect “Tea Party Conservatives” (basically lumping all people who espouse limited government ideals and constitutional principles under one easy to marginalize label) to any and all of our nation's fiscal and political problems. The debt ceiling debate has added a new dimension to this defamation program, sending leftist talking heads into a bloodthirsty frenzy akin to a Bolshevik street mob. Constitutional conservatives have been compared to “extremists”, “separatists”, “new southern confederates”, “traitors”, “saboteurs”, and “domestic enemies of the United States”. Here is just a sample of the MSM hate parade:


    CONTINUE . . .

    They're "afraid of the ghost of the republic".
     
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    I not a Democrat.


    Divert, distract, deflect. Typical.
     
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    Ditto..............
     
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    Divert, distract, deflect. Typical.
     
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    This incident would not dissuade me to vote for him. He's still on my list of viable candidates for President in 2016.
     
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    Then why do you sound and act like one?

    No really, the dems want desperately to distract us from reality and paint the "tea party" as traitors and extremists and you seem to get very uncomfortable anytime a little bit of reality starts to sneak into one of the false MSM debates like this "huge" Rand Paul scandal of your's.

    Rand Paul isn't perfect but he's at least got the courage to take a stand for what made this country great. That's the "real" crime he's guilty of here. Compared to the crimes the elite on both sides have committed against this nation and humanity this shouldn't even be worthy of a footnote.

    Who's the one doing all the diverting, distracting and deflecting around here? You are.
     
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    An interesting comparison is to put the two US Senators from Kentucky side by side to analyze their stance on issues and voting records. There is a much, much wider gap between Paul and McConnell, than McConnell and Reid.
     
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    Excellent. :thumbs:
     
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    I don't sound like a Democrat but people on BB tend to label people who don't line up 100% with their views s being liberals or Dems.

    I posted a news story, that's all. Since it doesn't line up with your outlook I get excoriated. You post a ton a crap on BB, almost all of it in Politics or Current Events. I've learned to not respond to most of it anymore because I respect that you have these viewpoints and its not worth arguing about. You told me just yesterday that you post stuff "to irk me."


    He's guilty of plagiarism, it's not a crime.

    Because I posted an unflattering news story about your poster child?
     
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    When the neocons seized (co opted) the republican party the republicans became the democrats.
     
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    Hmmm, this almost sounds like the confession of a troll. :cool:
     
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