Separation of Church and State...or Not?

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  1. Zaac

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    And all this time folks were saying that a President's faith or beliefs did not influence his policy making.
     
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    Adding that to my list of your false premises. Designated #11.
     
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    Hello again false premise troll.:wavey:
     
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    Once again you make a statement attributing to someone on BB. I'm calling you on it again. Post a link showing where people on Baptist Board said that the President's faith does not influence policy decisions. Go on.
     
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    From Baptist Board's rules:

    5. No trolling. Trolling consists of provoking large volumes of responses by posting absurdities..
     
  6. Zaac

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    And once again false premise troll, go away and leave the responding to the folks who are dealing with the article.:wavey:
     
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    "dealing with the article"...

    LOL

    I dealt with it by deciding it was garbage, with a little dishonesty thrown in.
     
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    What people have been saying that "a President's faith or beliefs did not influence his policy making."

    Can you provide an example of someone saying that or something similar?

    At this point I do not believe that your premise is true - and if it is not true what would be the basis for such a discussion?
     
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    OK, using the article please point out which policy stances have been influenced by Obama's faith?

    He does say it provides a framework and a vocabulary to come to the realization that there are problems. But show me where he says his faith influence which policy stance he takes?
     
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    Get ready to be labeled a false premise troll.


    Instigate a large number of responses by posting absurdities would be my guess.
     
  11. Zaac

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    You hear it in the media all the time when folks speak of separation of church and state. This is not the first time Obama has given this type of interview. If I recall correctly, he flat came out and said that his faith influences his policy decisions. Yet none of the separation of church and state crowd seemed to take issue with that.

    And what do you believe the premise to be?
     
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    American Atheists Billboards Go After Presidential Candidates’ Faith
    August 13, 2012

    American Atheists just put up two new billboards that go after President Obama‘s Christianity and Mitt Romney‘s Mormonism (though they never mention the candidates by name):


    The billboards will be located in Charlotte, NC, where the Democratic National Convention will be held, September 3 – 6, 2012. All companies contacted in Tampa, Florida, where the Republican National Convention will be held, refused to display the billboard focusing on Mormonism.

    Mr. Silverman said, “The election of our leaders in the United States is one of the most important decisions that we as citizens make. Allowing our judgment to be clouded by sheer silliness is unacceptable. We want to show the people of our country the foolishness of mixing religion with politics.”

    Teresa MacBain, Public Relations Director stated, “Our great country was founded on the secular ideals of the Constitution. Allowing religion to be the litmus test of our candidates undermines the very core of our freedoms.” Ms. MacBain continued, “Article VI of the Constitution states, ‘no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification’ for those desiring public office. How can we disregard our governing principles so blatantly?”

    American Atheists Billboards
     
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    And rather than shy away from Mr. Romney’s faith, as some campaign aides have argued he should, they have decided to embrace it. On the night Mr. Romney will address the convention, a member of the Mormon Church will deliver the invocation. On Sunday, this new approach was apparent as Mr. Romney invited reporters to join him at church services.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/20/u...-project-relaxed-image.html?_r=2&ref=politics
     
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    So where on Baptist Board did someone state that the president's policies were influenced by his religious beliefs?

    It's nice that the atheists make such statements; but then, we all know how they feel about us "mindless sheeple" anyway.
     
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    That is simply a restatement of your original unsupported assertion.

    Can you provide an example of where anyone in the media has said that "a President's faith or beliefs did not influence his policy making."
     
  16. Zaac

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    That's not what I said. People in the media, atheists, and secularists have said that a President's faith should not influence his policy making.

    The folks on here have said faith doesn't matter because we're electing a President and not a Pastor.

    And stop being lazy.:laugh: Y'all act like every detail of every conversation has to be laid out for you. You know how to search the internet and see how many times folks have said that faith doesn't matter or that faith should not influence a President's policy making.

    Goodness folks on this board have either said or alluded to it enough times that the President's faith doesn't matter because we're electing a commander in chief and not a pastor in chief.

    Some of y'all just looking for excuses.


    Role of Personal Faith in the Presidency
     
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    And if a President's faith means so little, why do they all stomp about their "Christianity"? Why all the visits to church with the cameras as election day nears?
     
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    Huh?

    From your original post:

    I'm beginning to think you have reading comprehension problems.
     
  19. Zaac

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    Folks on Baptist Board, just like a lot of atheists, etc, have stated that a President's faith should not affect his policy decisions.

    Barack Obama stated in February that his faith affects those decisions.

    It seems like folks on here might just be scared that people are gonna start thinking that Romney's Mormon faith will affect his decision making and they don't want to go down that path.

    Which is why I asked the question. If we're just electing a commander in chief and not a"pastor in chief" as so many have eloquently said...if we really are supposed to have separation of church and state as so many liberals are always spouting, then why has no one said anything about Obama's faith influencing his politics?
     
  20. Zaac

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    I'm beginning to know that you are a troll.:wavey:
     

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