Seperation of the trinity at the cross?

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  1. zrs6v4

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    I remember hearing Sinclair Ferguson touch on various views of this issue at a Pastor's conference a couple years ago. The question is did the trinity get separated at the point in which Jesus took on the wrath of sin? Can anyone explain this in any way?
     
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    Deuteronomy 6:4. Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:

    Mark 12:29. And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:

    It is foolish to raise this question. To believe it is heretical.
     
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    First off, it is admirable that you seek knowledge about things you don’t understand because it leads to wisdom.

    I take it you are referring to Jesus on the cross saying, “My God, My God, why hast thou forsaken me.”

    Regarding that statement, personally, I believe Jesus was always teaching who He was and what His purpose for coming in the flesh. I believe what He was doing was calling our attention toward the prophesy about this moment in Psalms 22

    Psalms 22:1-3
    (1) To the chief Musician upon Aijeleth Shahar, A Psalm of David. My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring?
    (2) O my God, I cry in the daytime, but thou hearest not; and in the night season, and am not silent.
    (3) But thou art holy, O thou that inhabitest the praises of Israel.

    …And then keep reading down to verse 24 and that might pretty much answer your question…

    Psalms 22:24
    (24) For he hath not despised nor abhorred the affliction of the afflicted; neither hath he hid his face from him; but when he cried unto him, he heard.


    Hope that helps...
     
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    Even so, it is an extremely short while.

    Yet I believe more on that we will all experience the strong feeling of being abandoned during our death. Such that all of us will witness that Jesus Christ did die for us and was raised.
     
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    Sorry for such a short explanation. Yes I was referring to Jesus' being forsaken by the Father. I personally do not see how the trinity could be seperated for that short bit of time, and Ferguson did not hold this view either.

    Old Regular: I see your point that God is One. I dont understand what your point was by saying it is a foolish question.

    Benjamin: Thanks yes that was the point in Jesus' life I was referring to and the prophesy of Psalm 22. I personally dont know where this view Im am speaking of is derived from, but it has something to do with temporary seperation of the trinity at the point of wrath being transfered.

    Hawkins: You take this view? if so please explain it. Also please explain your second statement?

    Thanks :)
     
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    I believe it has to do with the teaching about Jesus asking why He has been forsaken and the following explaination that God could not look upon sin. I didn't buy that teaching the first time I heard it, because of the implication of separation. But, many have recieved the traditional explaination of God not being able to look upon sin and are VERY determined to hold on to it. Not I, as per verse 24 and other reasoning, but I often find it too heart felt in others to find it worth persuing the discussion...so...

    Peace out
     

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