Shooting, anyone?

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  1. Ternera

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    Does anybody here do competetive shooting? I shoot 0.22 pistol in the Ocean State Pistol League and took a second place in Sharpshooters last year. Anyone shares my hobby?
     
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    No, but I DO hunt.
     
  3. Baptist Believer

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    I shoot for the enjoyment of it, but don't hunt or compete.

    I also carry a concealed pistol so I have a few options in life-threatening circumstances, my hobby also allows me to be prepared.

    I'm a good shot, but I train to shoot without using the sights (just point the gun and squeeze) so I can shoot accurately when I only have a moment to make a decision.

    How long have you been shooting, and what .22 do you shoot?

    What's your favorite round? By the way, does subsonic ammo give you more accuracy for competitive shooting? I tend to like the hotter rounds, plus it moves the slide better, preventing stovepiping and other jams.

    I have an old Ruger Mark I that my father bought in the early 1960s that I use for plinking around with a .22. It's a great little target pistol. I bought my father-in-law a stainless Ruger Mark III a couple of years ago and he loves it.
     
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    I love shooting at the earlist is through CS.When I grow older I like to play PaintBall with friends.
     
  5. Ternera

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    I carry concealed, too, although I have a "neutered" permit, which allows me to carry only when I'm on my way to the range, to the gun show, or to the gun store. Hopefully I'll be able to get a full permit at some point. I'd like to know more about shooting without using sights. Where can we learn it? Looks like a useful skill.
    I shoot since I was a kid, because I grew up in Russia, where shooting sport is extremely popular. There I shot everything including machine guns and sniper rifles and even an RPG, although only once :laugh: Here I compete with 0.22 Hammerly Railside, and I love this pistol. However for recreational shooting I prefer large-caliber pistols, like 0.45 auto or 0.40 S&W. My dream is 0.50 AE Desert Eagle :thumbsup:
     
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    [​IMG]

    I've fired once or twice... :laugh:
     
  7. SBCPreacher

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    Shooting anyone? I haven't shot anyone in years! In fact, I've never shot anyone.

    I do own a .22 rifle and a double-barrel 12 ga. shotgun. Haven't shot either one in years.
     
  8. Alive in Christ

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    I have never owned a gun of any kind in my entire life.

    I am 53 years old.
     
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    If you ain't going to use them your buddy in Upstate NY would be more than happy to give them some exercise. :laugh:

    I'm a long gun sort of guy. I haven't shot a handgun since I was plinking cans with my buddy's .44 magnum several years ago. Back in the early 80s I was in Germany serving with the US Army. I was on the range at least once a week running qualification ranges for the M16. M1911A1, M60 machine gun and the .38 revolver. I was able to shoot hundreds of rounds through the various weapons every week. I can honestly say my shooting skills are almost non-existent today compared to when I was preparing for the German Schutzenschnur.

    I'm getting a Remington 597 .22 in a few weeks (my birthday present to myself). We have a 150 yard range at camp and I hope to burn up a few bricks before deer season.
     
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    Im calling you dead-eye from now on Pastor Guy...."Dead-eye Guy".
     
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    That target was fired outdoors, 25 yards, 10 rounds in 20 seconds.
     
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    There's really not much to it.

    It's just a matter of getting you hand/eye coordination to the place where you simply point your weapon "naturally" at what you want to shoot (not using sights) and pull the trigger.

    The best way to start is to practice with a target about 3 yards away and adjust between shots until you can hit the bullseye fairly consistently. Then gradually move the target back a few yards until you are consistent. When you get to about 20 yards, you are about at the limit of what you would need to do with a handgun without sights.

    You'll go through a lot of ammo and it will probably take at least a few months of consistent shooting to get to that point.

    In a life or death situation, you're going to have to manage adrenaline, an enormous amount of stress, mentally process the scene and discern between innocents and dangerous people, not only identify the targets, but know if there are innocents moving in and out of the trajectory or behind the target.

    In most situations, you'll want to quickly move closer to the shooter (at angles, of course) to minimize the danger of hitting anyone who is innocent. With all of that going on, the last thing you will have time to do is to carefully use your sights for an accurate shot. You need to have trained your body to do that naturally and rely on your training so your mind and attention can be focus on situational awareness.
     
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    My hubby just took first place in iron-sights division of the pistol league here locally...out of 600, he shot a consistent 580+

    Just braggin, cause I am proud of him!
     
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    There are certain techniques that a good shooter needs to master, and shooting with sights is one of them. It really takes no longer to gain a sight picture if one is trained than it does to shoot without sights -- save for the under 7-yard shots, where sighting is not even an issue, just point and click.

    Here is a proper sight picture for target work:

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    The critical element is not exactly where the sights align with the target itself, but THAT the sights align as in the illustration. If the sights are aligned as in the illustration, the margin of error on the target itself is diminished, and even a small wavering will still score in the black. If, on the other hand, the sight PICTURE on the handgun (or rifle for that matter) is skewed to one side, high or low, etc., then the shot will vary widely on the target.

    Additionally, the focus of the eyes is on the front sight blade, not the target. The target should be slightly blurred if proper sight alignment is met at the handgun or rifle, as the eyes cannot focus on two widely separated items at once. The proper place for focus is on the sights not the target. The way that works is to focus on the sight alignment, scan to the target, then back to the sights. Then align in a 6 o'clock hold as shown (versus cover, that actually hides the target from view -- not the best for target work!), which will give a definite aiming point across the top of the sights (adjust shot pattern to print in the 10 ring with the 6 o'clock hold).

    As one progresses in their skill level, the idea is to narrow the movements (no one is every precisely still while shooting, not even world-class experts!) so that shots will break in the desired target area. Work on holding a precise sight picture on the firearm, and learn to hold in "circles" (where the movement of the pistol is in circles instead of waving from side-to-side or up-and-down) and then concentrate on narrowing the circle.

    With proper sight picture also comes proper trigger control and proper breathing, which allow for control of the body. If the trigger is "mashed" the sights on a pistol will drop bottom right in a dramatic fashion from the actions of the trigger finger. One MUST be able to squeeze off a round without varying the sight picture and alignment on the target. Another common failure is anticipating recoil, with an additional tightening or squeeze of the grips (or tensing of the body) which will pull the shot bottom left. A soft grip on the pistol (or failure to firmly hold a rifle) will cause shots to print high, as the immediate recoil will effect the shot before it leaves the barrel. Proper pistol grip should be strong enough to leave imprints in the palm.

    Muscle control and hold area, of course, also important. That takes time and work, and with repetitiveness can become an ingrained skill, where the body takes over and just does what is needed.

    Using the techniques above, with practice over time, I became able to draw and fire at a rapid pace with complete control of the sighting picture for maximum effect. In bowling pin matches (shoot 5 pins from a 4x8 table, drawing from holster) I was able to clear a table of pins in 3.83 seconds. You have to sight to be able to do that, as pins are a very precise game. A hit anywhere except sightly below the largest swell of the pin just makes them spin around on the table and they need to be shot multiple times to clear. I also scored well in falling plate matches and other speed events with a rather potent Government Model .45 acp.
     
  15. Ternera

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    Wow. Congrats to your Hubby!
     
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    He is my hero!!! :love2:

    He is a Vietnam vet, a patriot and an honorable man. I feel safe when I am with him!
     
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    lol i dont even know how to shoot a gun..buuutt.. this Nov we are going to Ironwood camp for our couples retreat..and my husband is bringing the guns he has and is going to teach me at the shooting range there..yowzers..
     
  18. glazer1972

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    I target shoot and plink for fun. I've never competed formally. I hunt some but not a lot. I do have a concealed handgun license and carry for personal protection. I am also willing to be called upon like the minutemen to defend my country if ever needed. I grew up with guns and enjoy them.
     
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    I have a friend who was the Mississippi State Champion in the Pistol division of the State Police Department-----he and his wife are now SB Missionaries to Senegal
     

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