Should a Christian drink?

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  1. dianetavegia

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    What Does The Bible Say About Drinking?


    Genesis 9:20-27 The first "man of distiniction" and the tragic consequences of his alcohol abuse.

    Genesis 19:30-38 Drinking contributes to Lot's debauchery of his own daughters.

    Leviticus 10:8-11 God commanded Aaron and his sons not to drink wine nor strong drink while serving God.

    Numbers 6:3 The Nazarite's vow excluded drinking wine or other strong drink.

    Deuteronomy 21:20 Drinking alcohol was one of the attributes of a stubborn, rebellious and disobedient son.

    Judges 13:4, 7, 14 Samson's mother was commanded by the angel of the Lord not to drink wine or other strong drink.

    1 Samuel 25:36-38 Nabal, an evil, drinking man was smitten ny the Lord.

    2 Samuel 11:13 David, by the use of strong drink, leads Uriah into a fatal trap.

    2 Samuel 13:28-29 Amnon, is murdered by his brothers servants while on a drinking spree.

    1 Kings 16:8-10 Elah, King of Israel was murdered by one of his captains "While drinking himself drunk".

    1 Kings 20:13-21 Ben-hadad, the King of Syria and 32 other kings were drinking themselves drunk when a small band of Israelites fell upon the Syrians and put them to fight. Esther 1:5-22 King Ahasuerus, after a week of feasting and drinking, drunkenly tries to subject Vashti, his queen, to the beastly gaze of the drunken princes and people.

    Proverbs 20:1 No wise person will allow himself to be deceived by wine which is a mocker, or by strong drink which is raging.

    Proverbs 21:17 Drinking Leads to Poverty.

    Proverbs 23:21 Admonishes to refrain from even looking upon wine.

    Proverbs 23:29-30 Strong drink produces sorrow, woe, contentions, babbling, wounds without cause and redness of eyes.

    Proverbs 23:32 At the last alcohol bites like a serpent and stings like an adder.

    Proverbs 23:33 Alcohol fills mens minds with impure and perverse thoughts.

    Proverbs 23:24 Alcohol brings on danger, accidents and insecurity.

    Proverbs 23:35 Insensibility follows drinking, rendering man into a clod; and it is habit forming so that the drinker upon awakening seeks it "Yet again".

    Proverbs 31:4-5 Officials with the responsibility of human life on their hands should not imbibe.

    Ecclesiastes 2:3 The writer of Ecclesiastes tried strong drink but in the end admitted that this too was vanity.

    Ecclesiastes 10:17 That nation is blessed whose leaders eat for strength and refrain from drunkeness.

    Isaiah 5:11-12 Woe in pronounced of those who give themselves to strong drink.

    Isaiah 5:22 Further woe is pronounced upon drunkards.

    Isaiah 22:13 Drinking often goes with carnal living.

    Isaiah 28:1 A woe is pronounced upon the drunkards of Ephraim.

    Isaiah 28:3 The drunkards of Ephraim are to be trodden down and destroyed.

    Isaiah 28:7 Prophets and priests become incapable of spiritual leadership because of their drinking.

    Isaiah 56:12 Drinking accompanies foolish optimism and the sinner's vain hope that his sins will not find him out.

    Jeremiah 35:5-8,14,19 Reohabites who steadfastly held to total abstinence assured of God's continued blessings.

    Daniel 1:5, 8, 16; 10:3 Daniel, who refused to drink the king's wine was especially blessed by the Lord.

    Daniel 5:1-2 This is a tragic example of a king who drank and led his people to also.

    Daniel 5:3 Drinking leads to profaning sacred things.

    Daniel 3:25-28 Moral degradation, of which drinking is a symptom, is ultimately punished by God.

    Hosea 4:10-11 Strong drink and immorality go hand in hand. Hosea 7:5 The king, by his drinking was not only made sick, but became scornful as well.

    Joel 3:3 Young women were sold for the price of a drink.

    Amos 4:1 Dissolute women, oppressors of the poor, call for their drink.

    Amos 6:3-6 The evil, idle rich who are given uimbibing wine were not concerned about the affliction of the poor.

    Habakkuk 2:5 Arrogance is inflamed by drink.

    Habakkuk 2:15 It is wrong to lead another to drink.

    Habakkuk 2:16 Drink leads to shame and humiliation.

    Matthew 24:48-51 Drinking is not consistent with alertness.

    Luke 1:15 The greatness of John the Baptist is linked with his total abstinence.

    Luke 12:45 Christ warns against drunkenness.

    Luke 21:34 Drinking prevents men from being prepared for the judgement day. Romans 13:13 All are admonished to walk honestly, not in rioting and drunkeness.

    Romans 14:21 Christians are admonished not to drink lest a brother be caused to stumble. 1 Corinthians 5:11 Christians are forbidden to keep company with drunkards.

    1 Corinthians 6:10 No drunkard shall inherit the Kingdom of God.

    1 Corinthians 11:21 The Lord's Supper is no time for drunkeness.

    Galatians 5:21 Drunkeness prevents men from inheriting the Kingdom of God.

    Ephesians 5:18 Christians are commanded not to be drunk with wine but to be filled with the spirit.

    1 Timothy 3:3, 8 Church leaders must be "not given to wine."
     
  2. Mike McK

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    The verses you list are all referring to drunkenness, not to drinking.

    I don't see a problem with a Christian having a drink or two, so long as it's in moderation and doesn't lead to drunkenness.
     
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    Noticed you are a tad selective in your quotes, the rest of Prov. 31 is of interest as well "6 Give strong drink unto him that is ready to perish, and wine unto those that be of heavy hearts. 7 Let him drink, and forget his poverty, and remember his misery no more."
     
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    When reading Prov. 31, one should start with verse 1.

    Proverbs 31:1 The words of King Lemuel, the utterance which his mother taught him:
     
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    I agree that a key verse was left out of the above list. This verse, however would definitely support Diane's belief, which is the same as my own.

    Proverbs 23:31 Look not thou upon the wine when it is red, when it giveth his colour in the cup, when it moveth itself aright. (KJV)

    Not only should the Christian abstain from drinking alcoholic beverages, the Word of God says we shouldn't even look at it.

    Adam Clarke says this about Proverbs 23:31:
     
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    And when or how can a Christian know when they have a propensity for alcoholism? My only sibling has tortured himself and our family with his drunkeness since he was a teen. One drink, after 4 sober years, has him living in the woods and eating out of dumpsters again.

    Gotta run pick up some allergy meds but would like to discuss the 'witness' of a Christian spotted having a drink after work by someone they've been witnessing to.
     
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    Pastor Bob, a slip of the fingers... I had quoted:
    Proverbs 23:21 Admonishes to refrain from even looking upon wine.
     
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    I see it now Diane. Sorry.
     
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    First the man takes a drink, then the drink takes a drink, then the drink takes the man.

    I wonder what you say to the fact that alchohol is called spirits, and the Bible says to be filled with the Holy spirit. I don't think you should fill yourself with any other spirit!

    :eek:
     
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    My family grew grapes at one time for a living. We had regular access to wine but not one of us has a drinking problem. We don't even like the stuff. The same areas of the US where it is preached against most are the same areas where I saw more drinking in homes than anywhere esle I have lived.

    Numbers 6:3 The Nazarite's vow excluded drinking wine or other strong drink.

    Commending a Nazarite vow would also commend long hair.
     
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    Water will kill you if you drink too much of it.
     
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    Wine in moderation has been shown to be beneficial to health, due to its antioxidants.
     
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    So, what about those of us who do manage to drink in moderation (myself for twenty years), but have no compulsion to drink and aren't tempted to drink to excess?

    So then, you've never heard the phrase, "to lift someone's spirits"?
     
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    There are multiple definitions of the word "spirit".
     
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    Look not on it when it is red .......... and yet white wine has the same alcohol content and so I never understood what exactly that meant in conjunciton with "a little wine for the stomach's sake". Red wine as opposed to white wine is healthier for you as it contains anti-oxidants and it is the red skins that produce that chemical that benefits the heart.

    Having said that....... I readily admit to the drinking of wine with a meal and occassionally as a beverage by itself. This is not a habit nor do I drink to excess and nearly always it is at home and never in a drinking establishment. Do I think it is okay??? Yes I do, for me, as I am not a drunkard nor am I addicted to it.
     
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    Maybe but he was asking for the definition as it's used in one specific context.
     
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    What is the thoughts on Deuteronomy 14:22-26?

    Thou shalt truly tithe all the increase of thy seed, that the field bringeth forth year by year.

    23And thou shalt eat before the LORD thy God, in the place which he shall choose to place his name there, the tithe of thy corn, of thy wine, and of thine oil, and the firstlings of thy herds and of thy flocks; that thou mayest learn to fear the LORD thy God always.

    24And if the way be too long for thee, so that thou art not able to carry it; or if the place be too far from thee, which the LORD thy God shall choose to set his name there, when the LORD thy God hath blessed thee:

    25Then shalt thou turn it into money, and bind up the money in thine hand, and shalt go unto the place which the LORD thy God shall choose:

    26And thou shalt bestow that money for whatsoever thy soul lusteth after, for oxen, or for sheep, or for wine, or for strong drink, or for whatsoever thy soul desireth: and thou shalt eat there before the LORD thy God, and thou shalt rejoice, thou, and thine household,
     
  19. TexasSky

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    Diane's question wasn't "is drinking a sin," it was, "should a Christian drink."

    There is a subtle difference.

    Before you drink, do you stop and ask yourself who is watching?
    Who is immitating?

    Especially if you are a leader in a church?

    Does the 10 year old looking up to you, that sees you with a beer in your hand know that you only have one beer once a year?
     
  20. Magnetic Poles

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    Maybe but he was asking for the definition as it's used in one specific context. </font>[/QUOTE]Sorry Mike...we are in agreement. My remark was directed to FundamentalFire.
     

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