Should Christian churches hold Seders?

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  1. Marcia

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    This article in the Washington Post talks about some evangelical churches holding Christian seders/passovers and how some Jewish people are finding this offensive. What do you think? Should churches do this?

    http://tinyurl.com/gr755

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  2. webdog

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    Are these unsaved Jews, or Messianic Jews? Every Messianic Jew I know will not get offended.

    This would be like me being offended because Jews don't have to work on Christmas or Easter.
     
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    I've always wanted to go to a Seder. We were going to go this year, but we went to get our tickets too late. But from what I've been told the imagery in a Seder is such that you just go "How do the Jews not get it?"

    I found this interesting:
    You don't traditionally find Jesus at a modern Seder celebrating Passover, which began last night. But this was no ordinary Seder. The 250 people at Immanuel's Church in Silver Spring on Tuesday night were holding a Christian Seder, a phenomenon that's gaining popularity across the country -- to the consternation of many in the Jewish community as well as some interfaith leaders.


    Interfaith leaders are upset??????? :confused: :confused: :confused:

    Please explain that one to me.
     
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    In 1 Corinthians 5:7--we are told that Christ is our Passover and then in v.8 we are told to "keep the feast"

    But I don't believe we are to keep the feast---in a literal physical way---like in the setting Marcia's article described---but we are to keep the feast in the Inner Man---with "the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth"

    But there is a growing sentiment among many church groups that believe we've "got to do it just like those Hebrews in the Bible did!" And pretty soon--whats gonna happen is this---we're gonna have all these churches "doing it like those Hebrews did"---with every place mat and every fork and knife and spoon in its right physical order-----and then we'll get so busy trying to get the physical tradition down----that we COMPLETLY MISS the spiritual truth!!! Then we get so tied up with the event---and when its all said and done---we don't have one iota of a clue as to what and who that meal pointed to!

    We're carnal enough as a church already---without having to add the possiblity of Hebrew carnality on top!!

    Besides---Jesus has already given us a Supper to participate in---in that "as oft as ye do eat and drink--ye do show the Lord's death til He comes!!!"

    Amen???
     
  5. Marcia

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    gtbuzzarp, the article explains why the (non-Messianic) Jews people are upset.

    Blackbird, I'm with you on this one! Even though Passover was Jesus' last meal before his death, it was ultimately a picture of his sacrifice; it pointed to Christ.

    Also, the last Passover is now our communion. While I can appreciate the Passover and would not mind attending or observing one in a Jewish home, I do not think churches should be getting into holding seders.
     
  6. Gwen

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    I have been to several Seders, and enjoyed them! It really enhanced my understanding of our faith, and that Christ came to fulfill the Passover. It is full of symbolism.

    I think it is a wonderful thing to hold a Seder. I also understand why Jewish people might find it offensive. They miss the symbolism, so they don't understand how we, as Christians, can hold a Seder. I'm sure it's confusing to them.

    BTW, the Lord's Supper is taken from the Seder.
     
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    I understand why Jews might be, but why interfaith leaders? Interfaith folks are moral relativists, so what's it matter to them?

    When I think inerfaith, I think of a gathering of Rabbis, Pastors, and Imams who all give a message and each message is equally valid. No one religion is more right than the other.
     
  8. Gwen

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    gtbuzzarp, I am don't understand it, either. It shouldn't be any more offensive to them than non-Messianic Jews who celebrate Christmas.
     
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    Marcia and blackbird,
    I agree with Gwen on this one.
    I have been to 4 Seders over a period of about 20 years. Including one last year hosted by a representative of Jews for Jesus.
    It was a wonderful way to understand more about what the Lord's Supper means. It did not come out of nowhere.
    I have never seen a hint in the churches that sponsored these that that was what we should change Communion to. It was an unusual special event to more fully explain things.

    Karen
     
  10. AresMan

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    I have been to a Sedyr by Messianic Jews and indeed there is a lot of symbolism that points to the Messiah.
     

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