Should Saved Baptists Vote For Advocates of Baby Killing?

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  1. rbrent

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    (1) As a Saved, Bible Believing Baptist, what is your scriptural justification for voting for any candidate of any party who supports abortion (the unjust killing of an innocent preborn child)?

    (2) Do you personally support abortion - the unjust killing of an innocent preborn child?

    I ask these questions because several people on this board have already stated that they intend to vote for John Kerry if he is the Democratic nominee.
     
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    Quick answer to both questions:

    NO!!!!!
     
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    Most people that I've talked to that support anti-life candidates, and say they are christians, state economic reasons for voting for their choice.

    The Bible nails it again "The love of money"
     
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    The answer, of course, is no. But people will be asking many other questions, too. And we would do well to remember that neither of the two major parties has the goods on "holiness."

    But as you say, we have to pick...and there is one party that has for some reason aligned itself with that which is plainly evil.
     
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    1. no
    2. no
     
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    From 2000:
    We have a had a Republican President and Administration for over 3 years. We also have a Republican Majority in Congress. But what has been done regarding the butcher of nearly 4,000 per day innocent unborn babies?

    It could all be settled with a Constitutional Amendment, but neither party has the political will or courage to settle the issue.


    Both parties are corrupt & do not defend lives of the unborn. A vote for the Constitution Party is the only alternative.

    http://www.constitutionparty.org
     
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    The only abortion I support is the natural miscarriage, the natural aborting of the baby that happens in nearly 1/3 of all pregnancies- something only God alone can decide on.

    I will probably never vote for a pro-life politician, however if the day comes when there is no pro-choice canadite, I probably won't vote at all.
     
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    I'm as pro-life as they come but abortion is just one issue.

    Because there is so little that lawmakers at the federal level can do, it's down near the bottom of my list of criteria.

    It's a state issue, not a federal one.
     
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    (2) No.

    (1) In general, a candidate who shares my political leanings will likely be pro-life. However, I do not have a litmus test for any one issue. So I would not vote for a candidate just because he/she was pro-life if I disagreed on several other positions, nor would I likely let the one issue prevent me from voting for a candidate if the other issues were close to my positions.
     
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    1: NONE! I can't find any scriptural justification for it. I have seen some people promote the idea of voting for "lesser of two evils"...I really have to find out what translation they use...

    2: NO!
     
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    Should Saved Baptists Vote For Advocates of Baby Killing?

    Abortion is not covered in the Baptist Distinctives. Abortion is also not a biblical doctrine. Rather, views on abortion are based on biblical interpretation.

    There is no "scriptural requirement" to justify voting for a candidate who is either pro-life or pro-choice.

    The only requirement we have in voting is to vote your conscience. Don't let someone else try to vote your conscience for you. If you want to vote for only a pro-life candidate, then that's your right. If you want to vote for a candidate based on other issues, that, too, is your right.
     
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    "Lo, children are an heritage of the LORD, and the fruit of the womb is his reward." Ps. 127:3

    "Whosoever sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed:for in the image of God made he man." Gen. 9:6

    It is a biblical issue.
     
  13. rbrent

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    Johnv wrote:
    Yes, folks have the "right" as American citizens to vote as they please.

    But is it right morally?

    Do you really believe God and the scriptures are so morally ambivalent that they agree with your statement:

    And what is your scriptural justification for such a belief?
     
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    Few have a problem with Thomas Jefferson's reasoning that slavery, at the time, was a "necessary evil". By that same reasoning, it's reasonable for a Christian to see abortion as a necessary evil. Christians didn't seem to require a "scriptural justification" for Jefferson.
     
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    How is abortion necessary?
    God tells us not to kill, I believe He meant children too.
     
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    How was slavery necessary?
     
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    Johnv,
    I don't think I understand your argument. I believe slavery, especially as it was practiced in America was immoral and wrong. Just as abortion is today. Neither is necessary. Jefferson ( a deist ) should not be the measuring stick of morality.
     
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    johnv wrote:
    Okay - your logic or illogic has completely lost me on this one.

    And you didn't answer the question.

    Abortion as a necessary evil?

    What kind of wacky idea is that?
     
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    Rbent, what I'm saying is that, if slavery can be accepted as a necessary evil, even though it was and is immoral, so can abortion. I don't like it, but it's understandable. Please answer my previous question. Do you think it's at least understandable that slavery was a necessary evil?

    But getting back to point one, abortion is not a doctrinal issue. It's a biblical interpretation, one that has been unfortunately turned into a political litmus test by the hyper-religious right. It's unfortunate that we Baptists allow people to sluff off Separation of Church and State (a doctrinal issue for Baptists), yet we require adherence to the anti-abortion platform, a non-doctrinal issue.

    Justdan, I do agree with you about Jefferson and being a moral measuring stick. Were I in the late 1700's/early 1800's, I would have been a staunch supporter of equal rights for blacks. But I would have been a supporter of voting rights for women, too, so they probably would have had me shot for treason ;)
     
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    Church and State is not a moral issue.

    Thou shalt not kill is fairly obvious.
     

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