So why do you American Baptists hate Obama so much?

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  1. Onlybygrace

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    OK I just have to ask, I have seen so many threads on this site that slate Barrack Obama. Please excuse my ignorance because I am not American but why do you guys dislike the guy so much? Give me some short,honest and factual answers. I mean you had that morally deficient president...what was his name, oh yes Bill "slick willy Clinton", who abused his power and acted like a sex-crazed, liberal reprobate and you loved him enough to forgive all his indiscretions. Then you had the Lobotomised Leader - El George W. Bush, who couldn't say 5 correct english sentences in a row, sent your sons and daughters to die in a foreign land and was obviously as corrupt as one of our south african civil servants, And yet you didn't chuck him out for all his blundering decisions, And now finally you have the first black president of the united states who has barely had time to exhale after his election and you stick the boot into him at every turn...forgive me guys but I gots to ask...


    WHAT'S UP WITH THAT?????
     
  2. Magnetic Poles

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    Irrationality runs rampant in some people. The USA is so polarized politically right now that civil dialogue and discourse are almost impossible. Still, President Obama is the hardest working man to hold the office in decades, and enjoys very high polling numbers with the population at large.

    That said, there is a segment of the population who are not just conservative, but reactionary. When the status quo changes, they squeal like little piggies.
     
  3. carpro

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    Because he's black. Why else?:rolleyes:

    Happy?
     
  4. Onlybygrace

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    No seriously, I'm not trying to bait you into saying you hate him cos he's black, I mean that much is obvious :) Are there any OTHER reasons?
     
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    I would say before you try to get the speck out of our eyes get the log out of yours!
     
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    He's a pile of communist filth, publically moderating many of his views in order to get a second term, in which he will become the broadest constructionist ever, creating a monstrous beauracracy that will dwarf FDR's and LBJ's.

    To get an idea of how "sincere" he is, watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pc8Wc1CN7sY
     
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    Because he hates babies, he prefers to kill them, he approves partial birth abortion,he says a baby who hasn't been in it's mother's womb for 9 months isn't a person, he believes homosexuality is not immoral, he is pro islam a false religion when he claims to be christian, yet everything about him is anti christian, he is pro socialism/communism. It has nothing to do with anyones color, it's him being anti christian, anti american, anti constution. Anyone who believes the bible should be antiobama.
     
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    OLD REGULAR SAID:

    would say before you try to get the speck out of our eyes get the log out of yours!

    And what log would that be exactly...you have no idea what my political views are or how I feel about my country's leadership whereas you guys have openly splashed your views all over the site, so how do you even know I have a in my eye, or who's log is bigger...that's just a copout. My issue is why do you take exception to him.
     
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    No!

    FTR, I did not vote for President Obama, and the color of his skin had absolutely nothing to do with this.

    I have twice voted for one of the same racial heritage for President, and would have supported Secy. (then Gen. Colin Powell), had he chosen to run for that office. I would support Rep. J. C. Watts, for one example, for that, or any other office, in a heartbeat. I would give strong consideration to supporting Secy. Condolezza Rice for further ofice (although I would not guarantee that particular support without further study, as I do not consider my own personal admiration for personal accomplishment enough reason, in and of itself), and I can easily see, and would have supported Mr. Herman Cain, Secy. Ken Blackwell, Mr. Lynn Swann, and RNC Chairman Michael Steele, in their bids for office, had I lived in any of their states.

    I have yet to see any reason to support Sen. Dick Durbin or his former Senate colleagues, now President Barak Obama and Carol Mosley Brown, or apparent incoming Senator Al Franken, or Sen. "Babs" Mikulski for any office, to give a few examples.

    In fact, I hope that Sen. "Babs" retires and Lt. Gov. Steele would run for and be elected to that seat.

    BTW, you may have correctly surmised I am fairly 'conservative' but still see no reason to bash anyone, particularly on a personal basis. Their political views are another matter, entirely.

    I find the playing of "the race card" by anyone to be patronizing, insulting, and beneath contempt, in any event, whatsoever, and by it, I am somewhat annoyed.

    In second thought, make that more like flat :mad:

    Ed
     
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    I don't believe American Baptists hate him at all.

    Do you have some objectice proof to back up your assertion?
     
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    Aw, c'mon!

    You two shouldn't 'soft-peddle' this stuff so much, and just tell us how you really feel!

    Ed
     
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    Only people with hate in their heart hate the man. I hate what he stands for. I hate his policies, but I don't hate the man.

    Reasons for hating his policies are:

    1. He promotes abortion.
    2. He wants to limit our right to bear arms.
    3. He spends too much money.
    4. He is for homosexual marriage.
    5. He is against school vouchers.
    6. His energy plan is wacked.
    7. His health care views are wrong.
    8. He is a hypocrite on things like the Patriot act (he talked bad about it then voted for it).
    9. Immigration policy is wacked.
    10. He doesn't choose friends wisely (his pastor, Tony Rezko, and Bill Ayers)
    11. He'll put liberal judges on the Supreme Court.
    12. Is against privitization of SS.


    I know where you are coming from though. There are many on this board that are filled with hate and do hate the man.
     
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    As a Baptist.. I don't hate him.. I dislike his policies..
    If he was a common man next door, I am sure we could be good friends...

    But also as a Baptist.. (more importantly a Christian)


    I have to stand against:
    • Abortion
    • Homosexuality
    • Sex outside of marriage
    • Against Eugenics (his statement that kids are a punishment wreeks of eugenics)
    • His liberation theology, which is NOT evangelical theology. Liberation Theology teaches that the way to get rid of sin is to promote social causes.. IOWS.. if we can erase poverty, no one would steal. This theology teaches that salvation comes from imitating Christ on social issues.. and not from Christ's death and resurrection at Calvary. He has been mislead into believing that he is saved based on his works.
    As a Christian, it is hypocritical to vote for someone that will promote these ungodly principles when we as Christians are trying to destroy these works of Satan.

    As an American, I dislike his policies because they are socialistic in nature.
    America has become great because we have always believed that working hard will put you ahead. Competition in a capitalistic market has always been the theme behind our greatness.. NOW he wants to redistribute the wealth to people who doesn't deserve it. Thus punishing the hard workers. He has increased our debt to never before seen levels.. and will take generations to recover. He has fascist policies in which the Government is now owning part of private businesses.. (i.e. Banks, GM, etc.)

    NOW.. I disliked Clinton's policies as well... as I did Bush.. especially last yr when he turned fascist with the bailouts.

    Short answer: As an American that happens to be a Baptist.. I cannot support a baby murdering, homosexual loving, liberation theologist that also promotes socialism and fascism.
     
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    For the same reason that I dislike Castro, Lenin, Stalin and Hitler. THERE I SAID IT! Besides that, he wont use rough tactics to interrogate our enemies but he will crush a babies head to pull it from the womb. Hitler would be proud that Maobama is willing to get rid of such useless eaters. And I am not an American Baptist, I am of the independent stripe.
     
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    Hate is a pretty strong word. I don't think anyone on the board hates Obama, but we hate the wicked and willful direction he and his cronies are pushing this nation, just as I hate the terror tactics used by Nelson Mandela in your history and the present white genocide going on in South Africa. For the record, not everyone was enthralled with Clinton's sexcapades and not everyone was behind the war in Iraq, no matter what political party or ideology they prefer.
     
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    He has a long history of being supported by really shady characters.

    He promised too much, there's no way he can do all he has promised, therefore he just tells people what they want to hear.

    Nobody's really even sure that he's a legal U.S. citizen.

    He has spent an ungodly amount of money during his short time in office, sending us into record amounts of debt.

    He's about the best speech maker in the world, but without the substance to back it up.

    He came into office with no experience, he's learning on the job.

    He's one of those guys who believes that the market for carbon credits will save the environment.
     
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    Don't you mean his TELEPROMPTER is the best speech writer?....:laugh:
     
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    ==I don't hate President Obama nor do most people I know. The problem is that we don't like his policies.

    ==Actually most Christians and Baptists did not "love" President Clinton. We disliked his policies as we do President Obama's.


    ==That President Bush was not a good public speaker is beyond question. However we should never judge a leader on their public speaking skills since many very smart people are terrible speakers and some very dumb people are wonderful at it. Also, we don't remove presidents for poor leadership/policies. Our constitution lays out a very specific condition for removal and we can't go beyond that. As for President Bush sending our "sons and daughters to die in a foreign land", I can't think of a recent President who has not done that (Obama included).

    ==That President Obama is the first African-American President is interesting historical fact but it has no effect on our views of his policies. If I remember correctly, both Presidents Clinton and Bush had rougher starts than Obama has had (in politics, that is).
     
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    Oh, goody. A troll.

    You know, honestly, for somebody with Aparthied so close in his rearview mirror, I really don't know that I'd be making race an issue.
     
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