Social services remove young children from grandparents and arrange adoption by gay c

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  1. Revmitchell

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    The five-year-old boy and his four-year-old sister were being looked after by their grandparents because their mother, a recovering drug addict, was not considered capable.

    But social workers stepped in after allegedly deciding that the couple, who are aged 59 and 46, were "too old" to look after the children.

    They were allegedly stripped of their carer's rights and informed they would be barred from seeing the children altogether unless they agreed to the same-sex adoption.


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  2. Jon-Marc

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    Isn't there some legal action the grandparents can take? 59 and 46 are considered too old to care for children? What about parents who are that old or older? That is a real injustice and needs to be corrected. A homosexual couple is better than loving grandparents? Think of the confusion that will result in those children being raised that way. They will more than likely grow up thinking that same sex couples is normal.
     
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    And that is the agenda:


     
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    This happened in the UK, in Edenberg.

    This is social engineering, brought to you by social workers, some (mind .....not all) who are activist with their own agenda. Where is the state? Where are the courts? Where is the respect for and contiuity of family? Some children grow up in homes with both parents young and disabled in some way..... but well adjusted. How sad. Pray for the children.... and their grandparents!
     
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    How stupid
     
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    If the facts of the story are as presented, this is disgusting that two loving grandparents can't keep the kids.
     
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    Some flesh on the bones of the story:

    1. Both grandparents despite their relative youth have health issues which would ordinarily render them unsuitable for adoption under the normal UK criteria

    2. The (single) mother of the children is a recovering heroin addict and is currently on methadone. It's generally considered unwise and unsafe to have a methadone addict around children (hence the original need for fostering or adoption) but the grandparents refused to give social services an undertaking that they would bar their daughter from access to the kids until she was off the methadone.

    All of that said, I still think this case is a crying shame and a travesty and the social services should have come up with a better solution, but I just thought we ought to have a bit of context to the case.
     
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    Normally grandparents are not denied custody if the parents as long as they themselves do not past chrges of sex crimes. Grandparents are usually more preferable to non family members.
     
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    I do think the bio parent & grandparents should have some say in who does get the children, but only after it's proved they would be at risk by NOT being removed from the home.
     
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    Not so mention the risk of sexual assault.
     
  11. Matt Black

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    Sorry, are you seriously falling for the delusion that 'homosexual'='paedophile'?
     
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    Well, I believe that this "delusion" is far more likely with gay adopters, than straight grandparents... And, it is not delusional at all, but a reasonable conclusion, or at least a reasonable caution to take.. I don't like gay people in control of children in any situation, if possible..
     
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    I don't think all homosexuals are pedophiles. I think just as many heterosexuals are pedophiles as homosexuals.
    I do not think homosexuals should be able to adopt because they can not provide a family environment for children to grow up in, theres no mother in the picture, children need a mother. Mothers are not obsolete and never will be.
     
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    IMO, no child should be raised in a home where homosexual relationships prevail... It should be considered child abuse. Amazing to me how this lifestyle has gained a measure of acceptance even in the church..
     
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    Sorry to belabor this but: I know you would find an enormously higher percentage of pedophiles there than in straight society..... Enough so that I believe it should justify keeping children out of those households.... K, I'm done...
     
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    Homosexual = sexual deviant, someone whose lusts are perverted beyond their natural scope. Children are at a much higher risk for abuse in Sodom than in other situations.
     
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    I agree that both are perversions, but the evidence that the two are otherwise connected does not bear out your theory.
     
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    Then the evidence has been tampered with... IMO..
    So, in your opinion, if something should happen in your family where children or grandchildren had to be placed by Children Services, you'd not care with whom they were placed? I know you're not saying that, but it begs that question.
     
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    No, I wouldn't want my children to go to a same-sex couple, but that's because I disapprove of their lifestyle and I wouldn't want my children raised in that environment, not because I think they would be any more likely to abuse my children than a straight couple.
     
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    Hmm, well I guess we'll simply disagree on this... rather largely on my part.
     
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