Some "food for thought" for the Calvinists

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  1. Alive in Christ

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    I encourage all of the Calvinists on here to give this information I am sharing some consideration.

    It is written by a brother who once was a calvinist, but now sees things differently. He is not at all mean spirited. And its not terribly long, either.

    I hope you will consider it with an open mind.

    The whole thing wont fit, so I will post the introducton and the summary. His thoughts on each of the 5 points will be linked to.

    Intro...


    Here is his conclusion...

    Here is the link to the body of his paper...

    http://www.auburn.edu/~allenkc/openhse/calvinism.html#Introduction
     
  2. Earth Wind and Fire

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    Now why would you feel that a Calvinist would be interested in reading this..... Makes no sense unless your really not one. :laugh:
     
  3. allinall

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    Here's real Calvinism.
    http://www.corkfpc.com/calvinismindex.html

    He never made a case, but only went on record rejecting the depravity of man. Even classical Arminianism believes in total depravity. His view sounds more like Pelagianism.
     
  4. Alive in Christ

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    Because it pertains to Calvinism.

    Some Calivinsts might be interested in what an ex-Calivinist brings to the table of discussion.
     
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    I am going to read this paper you posted, He quotes from the drifting Clark Pinnock.....here is an article from the Banner of Truth that he now speaks poorly of:
    http://www.banneroftruth.co.uk/pages/articles/article_detail.php?42


    you might want to save this site to your favorites...it has many good articles

    I can agree that a wrong view of the fall leads to error.Many on bb do not understand Romans 5...and it leads to Adam only being slightly wounded rather than spiritually dead.

    Though Pinnock was probably most widely known as a proponent of open theism, he contributed to many other areas of theology as well... not a good sign


    Lets see if this is where the author goes wrong.
     
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    Poor guy didn't understand the doctrine he claimed to embrace and now seems not to understand the new doctrine he now embraces.
     
  7. mandym

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    I agree with that much.
     
  8. Osage Bluestem

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    Fat chance!

    I don't care to hear any positons other than the correct calvinist one. Why waste my time on false doctrine and apostate ramblings when I could be spending it glorifying God and evangelizing the lost in the truth.
     
  9. Earth Wind and Fire

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    Maybe in his next life he will come back as a Gnostic....:laugh:
     
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    I don't read from Calvinistic authors exclusively,but primarily. By the way,A.W.pink counseled Calvinists not to spend all their reading on Calvinists. He thought that Alexander Maclaren,though Arminian, was was worth consulting.
     
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    Pelagianism denied the doctrine of Original Sin, Steve doesn't deny this. He denies the aspect of Total Depravity which teaches that men cannot respond to God's appeal to be reconciled.
     
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    With all due respect, this is a generalized unsupported accusation. If you are going to make such claims you should be able to back it up. What specifically did Steve write that misrepresents Calvinism (keeping in mind there are many forms of what people label "Calvinism")?

    Secondly, what did he write that gives you the impression he doesn't understand what he currently embraces?

    If you can't back it up, don't bring it.
     
  13. Alive in Christ

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    Oh, dont worry Osage. :laugh:

    Trust me, if there is ANYONE on this website that has the..classic.."Archie Bunker style" [Edited - No personal attacks are permitted]
    Believe me, I dont expect ANY scriptural, sanctified open mindedness, or any "deep thinking" [Edited - No personal attacks are permitted]
     
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    And for you to say those demeaning things above proves you are the reverse? You left yourself wide open there fella.
     
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    Well then, I suggest you stop posting here completely. Why continue to waste your time?
     
  16. Earth Wind and Fire

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    Robert, you took what he was saying completely out of context. Are you learning the art of the sound bite as well?

    for what its worth, this forum is accessible to him as it is to you. Thats called Soul Liberty. I would encourage him to vent his opinions as I encourage you Brother. :smilewinkgrin:
     
  17. Osage Bluestem

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    :smilewinkgrin:

    Just saying that I've explored the other options and I'm convicted that calvinism is correct, so I'm not open to change in that area.
     
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  18. JesusFan

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    that would be good advice, as we can read with profit MANY Christians regardless if CAL/ARM in their theological system, as there are many from both sides of the issue here who ARE agreeing in "essentials" of the faith, and are conservative in their theology...
     
  19. Alive in Christ

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    Osage...

    Oh, I have no do dought at all about that.
     
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  20. Earth Wind and Fire

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    Trust me, if there is ANYONE on this website that has the..classic.."Archie Bunker style"

    Drat! & I though I had exclusivity on the AB style.....oh well!:tongue3: See there is the Bronx Cheer! "Edith, "Get me a beer"
     
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