Spinoff from the "Wilkinson" thread...

The only goof is the one making the claim.

The word of God is not limited to your limited thinking, Brother, nor mine!

I get the love of money is to get greedy gain, you omit this possibility and demand the word to fit what you think.

It should be the other way around; the thinking should fit the word.

If this "freedom reading" philosophy prevents this spiritual reckoning as "the love of money os THE root of all evil" then, LORD! PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE protect me from myself!

 

"Did they commit evils or not?"

They committed sins.

 

So, in your mind sin is not evil?

 

I did not say that. I was pointing out that the terms are not equal.

 

Again you substitute words to no purpose. Sure, wickedness is evil but not all evils are wickedness. What makes you think that wickedness is the correct definition to apply in this case?

 

Yes, it helped them gain what they thoguht of their belief and they acted upon it.

Greedy gain

All greedy gain

Thank you for supplying examples of greedy gain, everyone of them. Whether for headlines, 72 virgins, or any other fame, fame is associated in the deviate's mind with popularity and that action which is coherently evil and is for greedy gain.

 

Roby, Brother, are you really in touch with all your faculties here?

 

Once again the devil is filled with glee over the division of God's saints. :tear:

This argument would not be occurring if not for the often repeated lifting out of context one verse of the Bible.

Common sense tell us that a pedophile does his evil deeds NOT out of a love of money. He does not do his evil deeds because he seeks monetary riches.

Taken in context, Paul is making it clear that men who pervert the gospel, drawing saints away from the doctrines of God, making money in the process, do so because of their love of money, and this is pure evil. This is the whole point of Paul. Taken in context, it makes perfect sense whether it's written as "a" root or "the" root.

 

If one does a more in depth study of the word pas it will be found that this word has many nuances depending upon it semantic description.

A good lexicon or koine dictionary will show this description for panton (root: pas) in 1 Timothy 6:10.

It will have the following letters of descrption: agnpn

This stands for adjective genetive neuter plural no degree.

The "no degree" implies that it may be but is not necessarlity all inclusive.
This usage is somewhat idiomatic to koine Greek.

Here is a good example of agnpn usage: Acts 1:1

Acts 1:1 The former treatise have I made, O Theophilus, of all that Jesus began both to do and teach.​

Just on the surface, Luke did not include many things which Jesus did and/or taught when compared to the other gospels (the mystery parable of the wheat and the tares in Matthew 13 for example).​

Also John proclaimed that the world itself could not contain the books describing what Jesus did.​

Another
Acts 9:32 And it came to pass, as Peter passed throughout all quarters, he came down also to the saints which dwelt at Lydda.​

Did Peter hit every degree of latitude/longitude of the region he was passing through? ​

Another:
1 Corinthians 4:13 Being defamed, we intreat: we are made as the filth of the world, and are the offscouring of all things unto this day.​

Within the scope of defamation what does this mean?​

Another agnpn usage:
1 John 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.​

So are we now omniscient because we have been taught all things?​

Do you see the idiomatic usage here?​

There are many other agnpn example, but these will prove the point that 1 Timothy 6:10 is in all probability NOT teaching that money is the root of each and every evil but many evils.​

Other evils besides greed which motivate us besides and apart from greed: Power, fame, jealousy, revenge, envy, gluttony, sloth, sexual depravity... ad infinitum.

HankD​

 

gain is defined as advantange, roby, advantage.

yes, I am "KJVO" by your accusations, but KJVO is a strawman developed to put your brethren down.

 

That is most assuredly debatable.

 

Let the word of God out of your box of rationalization.

If anything, your limited view divides the brethren from the full truth of the love of maoney is also the love of greedy gain and advantage over a situation placing onesself on the throne of God.

Every example roby listed fits into that catagory of all evil.

 

You have not explained yourself clearly.

I assume that you intend to say that one of the definitions of gk: kakos is "wickedness" so therefore the meaning of the eng: "evil" in this verse should be understood as "wickedness". Is that correct?

A.F.