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Statements That Need Some Explaining

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by carpro, Sep 27, 2007.

  1. carpro

    carpro Well-Known Member
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    Hillary says:

    (1) "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good."
    http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/politics/20040629-0007-ca-clintons-sanfrancisco.html

    (2) "It's time for a new beginning, for an end to government of the few, by the few, and for the few...... And to replace it with shared responsibility for shared prosperity."
    http://www.nysun.com/article/55425
    http://www.hillaryclinton.com/news/speech/view/?id=1839

    (3) "(We)...can't...just let business as usual go on, and that means something has to be taken away from some people."
    http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0706/04/sitroom.03.html

    (4) "We have to build a political consensus and that requires people to give up a little bit of their own turf in order to create this common ground."
    http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0706/04/sitroom.03.html

    (5) "I certainly think the free-market has failed."
    http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0706/04/sitroom.03.html

    (6) "I think it's time to send a clear message to what has become the most profitable sector in (the) entire economy that they are being watched."
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/02/AR2005090202079.html


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  2. Bro. Curtis

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    [Hillary]

    CAAAAAAAAACKLE CACKLE CACKLE !!!!!!! HA HA HA !!!!! What is it with us always cleaning up after people ? I meet people everywhere who tell me....uh,

    Well you know Carpro, it takes a village.......

    [/Hillary]
     
  3. 2 Timothy2:1-4

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    No question that she is a communist. Pure evil.
     
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    Ed's view of Political sayings:

    "Tax Reform" -- tax Ed some more.
    "We have to build a political consensus" -- we are
    going to gang up on Ed.
    "Something has to be taken away from some people"
    -- go get Ed's stuff.

    Join the Paranoid Party (PP) today :eek:
     
  5. KenH

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    That is an extremely silly statement to make about your next president. Only Satan is pure evil.
     
  6. SBCPreacher

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    This is funny! If this wasn't so true, it would be even funnier!
     
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    This is what I love about folks around here... there's so much quotable nuggets. Changing signature.
     
  8. Scarlett O.

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    When you typed that cackling, it's funny! :laugh:

    When I heard her cackling on TV the other night, it scared me!! :tonofbricks:
     
  9. JamieinNH

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    Being that the first three quotes I looked up were taken out of context, I have to ask. What is your point?

    Most anything can be taken out of context to show what you want it to show. It's only when you read the whole articles and see what she is talking about, then you can realize what the quotes meant in the first place.

    Jamie

    Won't it you carpro that was just harping on Ken for misleading titles.. and now you're posting entirely misleading posts.... hum...
     
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    Could you explain how they're out of context ? What does she mean ?

    Do you think Hillary to be a freedom lover ?
     
  11. JamieinNH

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    Hello Bro, Curtis!

    I hope all is well! Yes I could explain how the quotes are out of context, but I am sorry I won't. It's easy to read the interviews and see how what she said doesn't match up to what a right winger wants it to say.

    I will not waste my time explaining something so simple.

    I don't think she is any more freedom lover than Bush or any of power hungry person running for office. I don't see how she can do any worst than Bush since they are brother and sister (some where, some how). I think she will do as much damage as Bush has to this country. For the record, I am not voting for her or defending her per sec.

    I only stated that thw quotes are taken out of context when read in the complete interviews/articles. Even if I don't like her people shouldn't bend the truth to bash her.

    Isn't there enough stuff out there without having to make some up?

    Jamie
     
  12. KenH

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    None of the leading Democrat candidates are freedom lovers.

    None of the leading Republican candidates(except for maybe Fred Thompson) are freedom lovers.

    In the race that I expect in the fall of 2008 - Clinton vs. Giuliani - there will be no lesser of two evils to vote for.
     
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    Hello right back. Most is well. Hope the same for you.

    I did read them, and while most were opinion pieces, she did say these things, and the context seems to be, shared wealth, a more even playing field.



    I can't argue the damage. Seems like Bush has had to spend a lot of time taking care of what Clinton Inc. ignored. The difference between the camps is Bush waon't complain about what he was left. He's had some big boners, for sure.

    Respectfully, I don't think carpro made these things up. These are things she has said, my opinion is she is getting everyone ready for a socialist trend.

    But she isn't the only one. I would say that most of the dems are of that ilk. I would also put Guliani, & Romney in there, but they're not going to be as up-front.
     
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    Nothing wrong with an even playing field. One of the quotes was "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." That makes is seem like she is going to take our freedoms and other important things from us, when in fact she is taking about the tax cuts that have helped the rich get richer. She was talking to them, about how they enjoyed the cuts, but it's time to think of the bigger picture.

    Just like Bush us leaving this Iraq mess to the next President huh? :)

    I beg to differ. Bush and his camp HAS complained about what Clintion "left them"..

    I don't think HE made them up, but by his posting them in this manner, he is suggestion exactly what I said in my first post. And it was the exact same thing he was blaming Ken for in another thread...

    Jamie
     
  15. KenH

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    Getting "ready for a socialist trend"? These United States have been in a socialist trend ever since Franklin Delano Roosevelt was sworn into the office of the presidency in 1933.
     
  16. carpro

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    The quotes are accurate. They are sourced.

    Each reader can decide for themselves what the significance of the statements is to them. Some have.

    Except for complaining that they were posted at all, you haven't.

    I'm not surprised.
     
  17. KenH

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    On "The O'Reilly Factor" tonight I heard Bill O'Reilly say to a liberal, Jesse Jackson, "I agree with you."

    Another statement that needs some explaining.

    You can hear it in context when his show repeats tonight at 10:00 CDT.
     
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    So put it in context and tell us what you think he means.

    Then explain to Jamie how to do that. :BangHead:
     
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    Why would Ken have to put it in context? As you said: " The quotes are accurate. They are sourced."


    Jamie
     
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    They may be accurate in so much as she said them, but they are NOT accurately protraited. You do know the difference don't you?

    This is true. It's also true on other threads that Ken posted that you wanted to bust his chops about. Each reader can decide for themselves what is true or a lie or just make believe....

    You want to go on other threads and be the ethics police, but post such stuff as this. Double standard comes to mind...

    Let's see... as you put it in the other thread.. I have no problem calling it as I see it. As far as adding to this thread... There's nothing to add since it started on a false premise to start with.. Just more Right wing bashing...

    You shouldn't be. You post twisted truth threads all the time.. It's something we get used to so there is no need to be surprised..

    Jamie
     
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