Recently, in another thread, another poster and I went back and forth on the perceptions of the BLM movement. I decided to start a thread in which we can discuss statistics (cold, hard facts instead of perceptions) on crime, police killings, etc. It is my intention that everything in this thread be backed up with cited sources, so if you participate please adhere to this. My intention is NOT for someone to say, "The way I see it", but to show proof of statements. To start with, I am going to post several pictures of crime statistics and police shootings, then I am going to analyze them to show how they support my stance. So, to compare blacks and whites, we see in the first image, blacks account for 30% of deaths at the hands of police officers, while only being 13% of the population. Using only those numbers, there would appear to be a problem. And this is why I believe that so many people are upset; because they stop there. However, let's look at the next picture. This shows that out of 565 officer deaths, 243 of the killers were black. That's 43%, regardless of the fact that blacks only comprise 13% of the population. If we used only that statistic in the vein of the BLM movement, we could very, very easily conclude that there is a deep seated hatred of police officers among black people. But, as we (hopefully) know, you can't stop at just one statistic. You have to take every variable into account. So, to put these two together, we see that police officers kill black people at a much lesser rate than black people kill police officers. This alone should silence any cries of systemic racism. If you do more to harm me than I do to harm you, how can the fault lie with me? Lastly, we look at violent crime statistics. Blacks account for 36.9% of violent crime arrests (note, this is arrests, not convictions; so there can be no claim of white people getting easier sentences, etc. This is purely arrests), despite being only 13% of the population. Again, looking at only that statistic, it's not looking too good. Let's put the first and last together, then we'll worry about all three. if you look at the rate police kill black people (30%), and then the rate at which black people account for violent crime (36.9%), then black people are actually killed less often than the rate at which they commit violent crimes. They are actually killed at a lower rate than whites, and a MUCH lower rate than Hispanics/Latinos. When we take all three together, we see that black people kill much more than their share of police officers than police officers kill black people. Together with the rate of violent crime, if a police officer responds to a violent crime, he is much more likely to be shot if the offender is a black person. Taking all these statistics together, we should be applauding the police for their restraint in dealing with the black population. There is obviously no systemic racism among the force, or there would be a much higher percentage of blacks killed by police officers. In fact, with these statistics, it is impossible to make an accurate claim of racism. Now, I will readily concede that these are national statistics, and the number likely varies by city and state. In fact, I'll even grant that there is a possibility of whole police departments being corrupted and racist. But to claim a national epidemic is beyond ignorant. It is literally an impossibility given the actual facts. In fact, taking these actual, undebatable statistics, the claim that white people are more likely to get arrested instead of killed is actually backwards. A black offender is actually less likely to get killed than a white person. It's easy to see clearly when you allow facts instead of perceptions to speak. One thing of great importance to notice is that I did not manipulate the numbers in any way to arrive at this conclusion. The way I presented the numbers, I could not have contaminated them to fit my perspective. This is why I wanted to show the actual statistics via picture, rather than citing a source. If you want to check out the source material, then each one of the pictures cites its own source. But I wanted to ensure everyone reading that I haven't cooked the numbers at all. These are facts. In light of all of this, it is clear to an objective person that the claims of the BLM movement are false. I won't get into whether they are purposely lying or if they are simply mistaken. That's not my goal. My only goal is to show the facts, and how they don't line up with the claims being made.