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Submissiveness to the unsaved husband

Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by Joe, Jun 17, 2008.

  1. annsni

    annsni Well-Known Member
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    I'm not divorced nor ever plan to. DH and I have been happily married for 23 years - and I've been married over 1/2 my life now.

    As to whether Joseph and Mary were married...in the eyes of the culture, they were betrothed and since they would need to get a divorce to separate, in our culture, that would mean that yes, they were married.




    I never said that it was speaking of divorce. I was saying that it was showing how God took back an adulterous nation as His own. Time and time again they strayed and time and time again, God took them back. I think that's showing that a straying spouse does not always = divorce. Grace, mercy and forgiveness CAN happen (not saying it always does or in all cases should).
     
  2. pinoybaptist

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    I'm glad about that. My wife and I have been married 40 years, and plan to stay that way. Our marriage may not have been perfect, but no marriage is, whether the couple believes divorce is okay or not.
    if that's what you say, then okay. I don't see any point in belaboring that issue.

    And that is what God has been doing to His children and will keep doing until He decides to end time. That is why Jesus Christ, being the express image of God, is called Faithful and True.

    God bless.
     
  3. gb93433

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    Did you ever talk to his commanding officer? The U.S. Army does not like irresponsibility.
     
  4. gb93433

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    Scripture addresses the issue more than once. Read your Bible in the gospels and in 1 Corinthians. Jesus and Paul addressed the issue covering two conditions.
     
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  5. LadyEagle

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    Agreed. My turn the other cheek response was to this:

     
  6. superwoman8977

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    Yes the commanding officers know and now 5 years after the fact he is being brought up on charges of adultery and abandonment of family, dereliction of duty, and AWOL

    But I have something to say being the victim wife of a adulterer. I did not commit adultery. Why then do I have to be punished by being told I need to stay with my adulterous husband?? I stood by my husband and waited for God to intervene in the marriage and I have heard all the oh we reconciled stories and I used to think that could be us one day but the more I find out all the things he has done behind my back when I stood by him I dont want him anymore. When i sign those papers that will be the end there will be no turning back and I will keep that door to reconciliation closed. Because I know God has something better, a better person for my life.
     
  7. nodak

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    It deeply troubles me that when a wife is beaten, gets enough, and leaves so many "Christian" men want to judge HER as the sinner. It leaves me wondering if they are or secretly desire to be beaters themselves.

    When I was a child, in a situation like that in our little community, the Baptist Brotherhood would meet en masse at that man's house and invite him out for a little talk. I am gonna assume it was spiritual and non threatening, but the sight of 30-40 muscular oil field workers telling him the community would not allow this to continue must have sparked some fear, as I never knew a case where the Brotherhood had to meet with him in private behind a tank battery.

    One case I know of a man was caught with a prostitute. It was not his first adultery. His wife, fearing disease and knowing this had gone on for years, divorced him. He publicly apologized for it at church, but did not show what any of us thought was real repentance. (The arresting cop was the one who ruined his marriage, the hooker tempted him, his wife was too cold, etc. Blamed everyone but himself.)

    She publicly accepted the apology and stated she forgave him--but wanted no reconciliation. Then he pestered the church a good year to exercise discipline on HER for the divorce. Finally the church had to tell him his membership was revoked and he would not be welcome on the premises as he turned every ss class and prayer meeting into complaining about HER sin.

    Again, the Brotherhood made church a safe place for her.

    Scripture clearly ALLOWED for reconciliation, but did not command it.

    And as far as turning the other cheek--in Jesus' time a cheek slap was a very very insulting but not physically harmful common act. It was not punching your lights out.

    And Bro. Shane--I truly admire your zeal. Now we just need to add to it knowledge and temper it with wisdom and charity. When that is done God just might call you to minister at one of those little oil field Baptist churches in Texas or NM. Clearly you have the muscular passion needed.
     
  8. preachinjesus

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    My apologies, I must have inferred something in the dangling modified that wasn't there. Let us celebrate our agreement! :)
     
  9. pinoybaptist

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    You had a good church, nodak. That no one can say you didn't have. But they are few and far in between nowadays in this age of compromise. But a better church would be one where the elders, and not the brotherhood, met with the erring members of both sides, and one where the pastor has the moral authority to stand up and preach on both the issue of divorce and of respecting the wife.
    Unfortunately, pastors like that are getting few in number as well.
    Most are also divorced.
    Deacons, too.
     
  10. Brother Bob

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    Not in any of our hundreds of churches.

    BBob,
     
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