Subversives for Obama

Every vote counts! :laugh:

 

Sorry to see you spit in the wind....again.

 

That seems to be a concession on your part that subversives in deed support Obama.

And you're o.k. with it?

That doesn't give you pause?

 

Compared to the idea of voting for Senator McCain - no.

 

I don't take his response as serious as you. I found it fuuuny...! :thumbs:

I am sure there are some voters McCain wouldn't be proud of either but he will take them just the same. How about the guy that used the N word explaining why he wouldn't vote for Obama? I'm sure they won't put him on the poster but they will take his vote.

 

I don't know why you didn't take his response as serious. His answer to my question seemed to reaffirm that he agrees that subversives do support Obama.

You may be right that there may be some racists that would vote for McCain because Obama is black.

The difference being that racists are not necessarily out to undermine our government.

Subversives on the other hand are out to harm, undermine, or subvert our government - hence their name - subversives.

So you are also o.k. with the idea that a subset of voters whose goal it is to undermine the government supports Obama?

And it does not give you pause either?

 

What gives me pause is otherwise good people soiling their reputations by continuing to attempt to smear Senator Obama with this "subversive" nonsense.

 

No, I said both candidates have voters they wouldn't be proud of.

Look, they put their name on the ballet and make speeches to the nation for support. They can't control who votes for whom.

 

Simply put, we simply cannot afford four more years of the same, which is exactly what we will get with McCain. Since he is going to win in November, we will all get to see for ourselves.

Though I am not a big Obama fan, I could never vote for someone like McCain. This past week is proof of that.....

Regards LE, hope all is well,
BiR

 

Obama's 'Weatherman' Connection
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/02/obamas_weatherman_connection.html


There has been a sudden spate of blog items and newspaper articles, mainly in the British press, linking Barack Obama to a former member of the radical Weather Underground Organization that claimed responsibility for a dozen bombings between 1970 and 1974. The former Weatherman, William Ayers, now holds the position of distinguished professor of education at the University of Illinois-Chicago. Although never convicted of any crime, he told the New York Times in September 2001, "I don't regret setting bombs...I feel we didn't do enough."

Both Obama and Ayers were members of the board of an anti-poverty group, the Woods Fund of Chicago, between 1999 and 2002. In addition, Ayers contributed $200 to Obama's re-election fund to the Illinois State Senate in April 2001, as reported here. They lived within a few blocks of each other in the trendy Hyde Park section of Chicago, and moved in the same liberal-progressive circles.
Is there anything here that raises questions about Obama's judgment or is this just another example of guilt by association?

The Facts

The first article in the mainstream press linking Obama to Ayers appeared in the London Daily Mail on February 2. It was written by Peter Hitchens, the right-wing brother of the left-wing firebrand turned Iraq war supporter, Christopher Hitchens. Hitchens cited the Ayers connection to bolster his argument that Obama is "far more radical than he would like us to know."

The Hitchens piece was followed by a Bloomberg article last week pointing to the Ayers connection as support for Hillary Clinton's contention that Obama might not be able to withstand the "Republican attack machine." Larry Johnson, a former counterterrorism official at the CIA and the State Department, predicted that the Republicans would seize on the Ayers case, and other Chicago relationships, to "bludgeon Obama's presidential aspirations into the dust."

The London Sunday Times joined the chorus this weekend by reporting that Republicans were "out to crush Barack by painting him as a leftwinger with dubious support".

The only hard facts that have come out so far are the $200 contribution by Ayers to the Obama re-election fund, and their joint membership of the eight-person Woods Fund Board. Ayers did not respond to e-mails and telephone calls requesting clarification of the relationship. Obama spokesman Bill Burton noted in a statement that Ayers was a professor of education at the University of Illinois and a former aide to Mayor Richard M. Daley, and continued:

Senator Obama strongly condemns the violent actions of the Weathermen group, as he does all acts of violence. But he was an eight-year-old child when Ayers and the Weathermen were active, and any attempt to connect Obama with events of almost forty years ago is ridiculous.

But the Obama-Ayers link is a tenuous one.

Whatever his past, Ayers is now a respected member of the Chicago intelligentsia, and still a member of the Woods Fund Board. The president of the Woods Fund, Deborah Harrington, said he had been selected for the board because of his solid academic credentials and "passion for social justice."
"This whole connection is a stretch," Harrington told me. "Barack was very well known in Chicago, and a highly respected legislator. It would be difficult to find people round here who never volunteered or contributed money to one of his campaigns."


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Bottom line? The "swift boat crowd of 2008." Look where they got us. Into deep trouble "FAST."

 

Fortunately, this "Swiftboat" attempt isn't working.

 

Too bad, because it is true. Ayers should be on the same federal prison block that Jane Fonda should still be in. He was in fact, and is in sympathies a terrorist and a murderer, and Barak and he are close.

 

And it will not be. They want Obama in office no matter what his connections are so they can continue their communist progression and their holocaust on unborn children.

 

Yes, this time the electorate is wise to this republican attempt at swift-boating. You are correct, this time it won't work.

 

This isn't about candidates controlling who votes for them.

It is about asking yourself what is it that other voters - in this case subversives- see in a candidate that would cause they to choose to vote for him.

And then asking yourself if you should be supporting the same thing.

So why do subversives wish to see Obama elected?

 

The problem is that Ayers is not repentant. He says that he regrets not doing more (terrorism).

Obama was not eight when he made the decision to hook up with Ayers. He was a thirty-something adult.

And I am sick of the lame "I don't condone such and such behavior" word-speak answers while looking away from exactly that.

Like the ones we get from the democrats on abortion... legal, safe and rare... while fighting tooth and nail to insure that every possible abortion is performed under every possible situation.

Where's the icon for vomitting?