Successful black people and how they got that way

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  1. Joseph_Botwinick

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    I don't know if this is the wrong place for this thread or not. If it is, please accept my apologies and move it to the appropriate forum.

    It was brought up in another thread entitled reparations, http://www.baptistboard.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=62;t=000014 , that black people are less likely to become successful without affirmative action and reparations (I.E. Government help). I maintain that black people, like everyone else, are fully capable of making their own way and being successful without help from the government (in fact, I would argue that everyone would be better off without the governments help in most areas of life).

    Thus I would like to start a thread about successful black people and how they got that way. Please list as many successful black people and tell us how they became successful.

    I will begin:

    Walter Williams: He worked extremely hard, studied his rear-end off, got a good education, and became an economics professor at George Mason University, guest lecturer, and guest host for the Rush Limbaugh Show. From what I understand, he didn't need affirmative action nor reparations to become successful. As a matter of fact, he seems pretty adamantly opposed to the idea:

    http://www.gmu.edu/departments/economics/wew/gift.html

    Who's next?

    Joseph Botwinick

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    A good topic. I don't remember his name, but there was a military officer (Black) who was going about the USA recruiting young Black men for college. He said there was no excuse. Earn a scholarship or join the services and get your college. The world is yours through education. I think he would be a successful Black man, in my opinion.

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    Jim,

    Please do try to remember or find his name. I would be interested in reading more about him.

    Are there any others?

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    Jim1999! I saw a news story on that guy and he was incredible. Didn't put up with any excuses at all! VERY inspiring! I'll ask hubby if he remembers the guys name and if so, I'll let post it later.


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    Armstrong, Louis
    Daniel Louis Armstrong (August 4, 1901 - July 6, 1971) was a great jazz trumpet player, composer, and singer. He was nicknamed Satchmo because some people said that his mouth was like a satchel. Armstrong was born in New Orleans, Louisiana, and soon became a well-known cornet player in clubs and on riverboats along the Mississippi River. He became world famous for his incredible musical talent, especially his improvised solos. Armstrong also sang "scat," a style in which nonsense words are used in a song. Armstrong was featured in many recordings, television shows, and movies. Armstrong celebrated his birthday on July 4.

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    Henson, Matthew A.
    Matthew Alexander Henson (Aug. 8, 1866 - March 9, 1955) was an American explorer and one of the first people to visit the North Pole. He was on most of Robert E. Peary's expeditions, including the 1909 trip to the North Pole.

    Jemison, Mae C.
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    Johnson, William Henry
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    Jordan, Barbara
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    Lawrence, Jacob
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    Do they have to be famous? If not, I pick my brother! :D
    He joined the army after high school, went to college a while, and now owns his own home and business, set up with his own money. Growing up for the most influential parts of his life in the back backwoods of Pennsylvania where there just weren't any other blacks and where prejudice runs deep would technically have given him every disadvantage and cause to seek assistance from the government as a minority in all he did, but that didn't happen. [​IMG]
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    JOHN JASPER: The Unmatched Negro Philosopher and Preacher.

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    JOHN JASPER, the negro preacher of Richmond, Virginia, stands preëminent among the preachers of the negro race in the South.

    He was for fifty years a slave, and a preacher during twenty-five years of his slavery, and distinctly of the old plantation type.

    Freedom came full-handed to him, but it did not in any notable degree change him in his style, language, or manner of preaching. He was the ante bellum preacher until eighty-nine years of age, when he preached his last sermon on "Regeneration," and with quiet dignity laid off his mortal coil and entered the world invisible.

    He was the last of his type, and we shall not look upon his like again. It has been my cherished purpose for some time to embalm the memory of this extraordinary genius in some form that would preserve it from oblivion. I would give to the American people a picture of the God-made preacher who was great in his bondage and became immortal in his freedom.

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    Dr. Ben Carson has dedicated his life to inspiring others to excel by using their God-given talents. He was born in Detroit, Michigan where his childhood journey was filled with poverty. He struggled with poor grades and a violent temper. After his mother, who only had a third-grade education, challenged him to strive for excellence, Ben rose from the bottom to the top of his class. His achievements earned him academic scholarships to college and medical school.
    Today, Dr. Carson is director of pediatric neurosurgery at The Johns Hopkins Medical Institutions in Baltimore, MORE STORY
     
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    I would pick Collin Powell as a very successful black man. I suspect he got that way by working hard and making an effort to get along with people. He seems to be a good diplomat.
     
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    Actually, the three politicans that most impress me at present are all black, Koffi Anan, Nelson Mandella, and Colin Powell. Don't agree with all they say or stand for, but am much impressed by their behaviour, dignity, and presentation.
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    Want it be nice if someday we don't have threads like this. Race will be unimportant as far as abilities goes and we all can live together as believers in Christ. Oh that will be HEAVEN!!! [​IMG]
     
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    Jailminister, your right, but threads like this will exsist as long as there are those who believe people of other races not their own are less then they are, or less capable. In that case threads like this one are needed.
    I guess we'll have to wait till we get to heaven.
     
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    [​IMG] AMEN Jailminister to that! Donna you hit that right on the head!!!
     
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    A friend of mine whose name will remain unsaid. He was a long-distance runner, and a very good one. His father split when he was very, very young. Mom was undereducated, and was unable to find a decent paying job in the city in which I lived. There were three children, of which my friend was the youngest. They were on food stamps by necessity - a government handout to which Joseph is apparently opposed. They were needed for survival. They lived in government housing.

    Through hard work, combined with the assistance of the government, my friend, who was black, was able to live. And then able to succeed.

    What is missed in the debate is what would happen if this government assistance were to disappear. Families and children would starve. Are blacks fully capable of making their own way? Many are. Many are not. For every black person that is successful on their own, there is another who is able to just survive because of what is given to them by the government. And let us not forget that all races and cultures are represented on the welfare rolls. Not everyone is a slacker who just chooses not to work. Most people on welfare that I personally know work a full-time job and sacrifice to provide for their family. They just work in a system where what they make isn't enough to make ends meet.

    All you have to do is go to a large city and examine the difference in the inner-city, predominantly black schools, and the suburbian, mostly white schools to see an incredible difference in the quality of education that is being provided. I do not know how anyone who takes a look at what is happening in our country can say that there is an equal playing field. There simply isn't.

    Because of these differences in education that are there whether a person wants to believe it or not, it is necessary and productive for colleges and universities to actively seek out and search for qualified minority candidates. I, for one, went to a school that was 90% white. I would have much rather had more cultural diversity, as I gained so much from those who were of a different color.
     
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    Condi Rice and J.C. Watts are two African-Americans I admire.

    I first saw Mr. Watts give a rebuttal speech after one of Clinton's State of the Union speeches. I was very impressed. He recently left Congress and returned to Oklahoma. I believe if he returns to public office that one day J.C. Watts will be president, maybe 2012. He is an interview :

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    During the Civil War, Frederick Douglas did this. He continually recruited black soldiers, even though the issue of equal pay had not yet been resolved (he was working oon that issue as well).

    Other than that, there are a lot of successful black individuals:

    Famous Amos (and we're all a lot better off because of him!!)
    Bryant Gumbel
    Herman Cain (founder of Godfather's pizza)
    Michael Jackson (oh, wait, you said famous BLACK people.... my bad!!)
     
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    Clarence Thomas:

    "American jurist, associate justice of the U.S. Supreme Court. Born in Savannah, Georgia, he earned an A.B. degree from Holy Cross College and the J.D. from Yale Law School before taking a job as assistant attorney general of Missouri (1974-1977). As assistant secretary for civil rights in the U.S. Department of Education (1981-1982) and chairman of the federal Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (1982-1989) he earned a reputation as an outspoken black conservative who opposed minority preference programs. He was appointed to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia in 1989, and nominated by President George Bush to the Supreme Court in July 1991, replacing the retiring Justice Thurgood Marshall. Thomas's already controversial confirmation hearings were jarred by allegations of sexual harassment brought against Thomas by Anita Hill, a law professor who had worked for him in two federal agencies during the 1980s. Adamantly rejecting Hill's accounts of his alleged misconduct, Thomas described the nationally televised proceedings as a “high-tech lynching” engineered by liberal opponents. The Senate confirmed him in October 1991 by a 52 to 48 vote."

    http://encarta.msn.com/encnet/refpages/refarticle.aspx?refid=761558105

    A few interesting points here:

    1. I believe he did come from a poor family in the South. Somehow, he made it without affirmative action or reparations.

    2. Here is a black man in an office, which, IMO, is probably a little more powerful than the president of the United States. This guy not only helps make law, but also interprets it and is part of the final say about how this country is to be run. I guess Colin Powell and Condeleza Rice are in good company.

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    That is hillarious!!!!!!!!!! [​IMG]
     

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