Sunni Fight al-Qaida

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  1. Ed Edwards

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    Source (this source may be hard to read after a few days
    on the board as some news sources make you sign up
    to read old stories):

    http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/couriernews/news/410115,3_1_EL01_A8IRAQ_S1.article

    I believe such positive events in Iraq show that
    President Bush was correct in leading us to fight
    the al-Qaida and other international terrorists and
    criminals IN IRAQ.
     
  2. Ed Edwards

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    Here is another quote from that AP source
    (bolding by Ed):

    Amen!
     
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    Heresy!

    Nothing positive happens in Iraq.

    This story can't be true!
     
  4. donnA

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    But I thought people were so sure al qaida wasn't in iraq, and iraq had nothing to do with the terrorists al qiada, which made the war about nothing having to do with terrorism and al qaida.
     
  5. Ed Edwards

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    Somewhere on the Internet one can find any opinion that
    one wants to find. If, by rare perchance, you can't
    find a specific opinion on the Internet, you can post it
    somewhere. Then you can quote it like it is the gospel truth :praying:
     
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    Al Qaeda was not in Iraq prior to Bush's invasion and occupation of Iraq. Saddam Hussein was a secularist and Osama bin Laden hated him as much as, if not more than, George W. Bush hated him.

    And, yes, the invasion of Iraq had nothing to do with the war with al Qaeda and its allies. Rather, the invasion of Iraq was a part of the plan pushed by neoconservatives, such as Dick Cheney, to establish United States hegemony over the Middle East. It has backfired. Let's just hope and pray that the neocons are not able to cause even more trouble in the Middle East before noon on January 20, 2009.
     
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    Here's the rest of the story:

    http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2007/6/1/104824.shtml?s=us


    Hmmmm....let's see here. The reason we called for US help is to get rid of al Qaeda who was killing us, but if they were killing the occupiers, then that is okay, it's part of the jihad. Hmmmm.....So once the Sunni and Shia unite and stop killing each other but turn together, united, to kill the American occupiers in a jihad, that is the Bush plan for peace in Iraq? That will be a success? Because (as I have been predicting for several years now), the sects uniting to kill American troops will be the ultimate outcome. :( Once one understands the ideology and mindset of the enemy, be it Shia or Sunni, the outcome is very predictable.
     
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    LadyEagle speaking of Iraqi factions: // ... the sects uniting
    to kill American troops will be the ultimate outcome.//

    I don't think that will ever happen, it hasn't happened yet.
    In fact, the factions hate each other and only cooperate
    temporarily. No set of factions in Iraq will ever unite long enough
    to 'win'.
    It is the strategy of an American win.

    Remember back in 2005 at the 60th anniversery
    of the Occupation of Germany & Japan in WW3
    I defined victory in Iraq as:

    The American presence in Iraq in 2063.
    Iraq would be a beautiful place to base
    enough nuclear weapons to destroy the face of
    the planet earth. Of course, those Weapons
    of Mass Destruction (WMD) should be under
    control of somebody who like to live and
    not some radical group that want's to kill themselves :(
     
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    Our time in Iraq is up !
    Time to get out. Enough American deaths, and enough American wounded.
    We have set up their democracy, hanged their dictator, set up their police and army.
    Now they have their parliament.
    The Iraqis voted for that parliament.
    That parliament must now perform.
    Whatever is the outcome is the outcome. If they can't hold their country together, then it's their problem, not ours anymore.
    Staying longer is going to make what is not yet apparent at this point obvious to everybody - that we are just imperialists setting up and propping up our dummies and puppet regimes.
     
  10. NiteShift

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    According to Jim Dunnigan et al. -

    "Meanwhile, everyone is getting more patriotic. It's no longer cool to take orders from Iran. So Muqtada Al Sadr, and his Mahdi army, are becoming less a tool of Iran, and more a mainstream Iraqi political movement. Sadr is even sitting down and cutting deals with Sunni Arab politicians. At the same time, the Mahdi Army is being purged of factions that don't go along with the new peace and reconciliation approach. Those radical factions are still killing Sunni Arabs, while Sunni Arabs and al Qaeda continue to slaughter Shia Arabs. This is not popular with Iraqis in general, and the terrorists are increasingly seen as a public menace that all Iraqis must unite to destroy."


    There are positive developments in Iraq. It's a shame that Petraeus and his tactics were not put in place before everyone began moaning "All is Lost! All is Lost!"
     
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    Huh?
    In February you were predicting civil war between Sunnis and Shia - "..that, and the belief that our military is caught in the middle of a civil war between the Shia and Sunni, which some of us predicted would end up happening years ago now, literally".

    The goal all along has been for the different sects to unite and support their government. This is the outcome that we want. Al Sadr has instructed his followers not to engage US troops, and is apparently trying to weed out the hard-cases in his own sect. Most of the Sunni tribes in the Triangle are now fighting Al Queda and cooperating with the government and with the Americans. These are positive developments.
     
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    I'm glad you are so hopeful about Iraq (Babylon). What never gets mentioned in these threads is the fact that Iraq will continue to be a mess until the Lord Jesus Christ comes back to straighten things out, according to the Bible.
     
  13. NiteShift

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    Agreed. And the same is true of our entire world.
     
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    So, NiteShift, how long do you predict the cohesion to last between the Shia and the Sunni? Our troops are still caught in the middle and targets of all islamic sects over there in Iraq, no matter how it turns out.
     
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    No predictions from me LE. I'm just noteing (sp?) positive trends and hoping for the best.
     

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