Syria Propaganda Looking a Lot Like Iraq Propaganda

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  1. poncho

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    How can you tell when a country is about to get invaded? Listen to the sellout traitor talking heads on television tell you the country has “weapons of mass destruction” or “chemical weapons” and is “about to use them on their own people”.. The Gullible American public fell for it once, the media and government assume it will work again, only will it?

    Fool me once, shame on you… It’s amazing the American people are not up in arms over this obvious scam taking place in order to coax the masses into supporting yet another war.

    The only thing stopping them (the cabal running our country) from invading another sovereign nation, plundering our treasury, and ending our soldiers lives is an uneducated, gullible public they are counting on it.


    VIDEO . . .


    Bashar al-Assad, Syria, and the truth about chemical weapons

    If you want to learn what’s really going on in Syria, watch this brief interview with U.S. Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson, former chief of staff to Colin Powell, and the guy who wrote Powell’s famous speech on Iraqi weapons of mass destruction:

    Wilkerson has no particular love for the governments in Syria or Iran, and is solely talking about what is best for America.

    VIDEO . . .

    Numerous experts have poured cold water on the Obama administration’s wild claim that the Syrian government is getting ready to use chemical weapons on its own people. McClatchy reports:
    With concern over the Syrian regime’s chemical weapons stockpile reaching a fever pitch this week, international experts are cautioning against alarmism, saying there’s no confirmation that the Syrians are mixing weapons components or loading them into delivery systems, as some U.S. news organizations have reported.
    CONTINUE . . .

    Syria Ripe For A False Flag

    Amidst Turkey getting NATO approval to line up Patriot anti-missile systems on its border and with US officials indicating that the consequence of President Bashar Al-Assad using chemical weapons will be military intervention, the USS Eisenhower has arrived off the coast of Syria to send a clear signal that direct confrontation could be near.

    How to brainwash the sheeple into doing anything you want

    (NaturalNews) A few hours ago I was cycling through an nearby neighborhood. As I approached a mother and her two children walking down the sidewalk, the cutest little four-year-old piped up.

    "Hi...!" she said.

    "Hi...!" I replied.

    At that point, mom jerked the little girl by the arm, bent down and whispered something hushed and intense in her ear. As she continued to watch me ride by, I saw the girl's expression morph from happiness and curiosity into pain, fear and confusion.

    "Well, there you have it," I said to myself. "Fear is once again hammered into an innocent child's psyche. How sad."

    Children have no way to question their parents' wisdom. If mom says strangers are dangerous, they are, no questions asked.

    In this case mom did more than just tell her I was dangerous. She activated physical pain and fear during the child's interaction with me. In NLP we call this "anchoring." By associating an intense state of mind/body - fear and pain - with strangers, the mother hopes to condition her child to avoid them.

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    If I were a twisted tyrant creating a country of sheeple, here's what I'd do:

    First, I'd champion principles like conformity, consumerism, instant gratification, social status, and intolerance for personal sacrifice. All of these are wonderful "red ball" kinds of tools that can be used to induce workable positive and negative feelings. Of course, I'd be grateful for all of the lazy, immature parents who help tremendously by enslaving their children to fear. Then, I would:

    1. Scare the living hell out of everyone, probably by creating a catastrophe that could "happen again if we don't take measures to stop it" (we want red balls floating around in people's imagination).

    2. Associate some visual symbol or keyword to the horror of the event.

    3. Repeat the keyword or show the symbol at key times or whenever I want to manipulate people. Doing what I want is a way for people to escape the fear that I conditioned in them.

    With this system firmly in operation, I am now free to subject my sheeple to all kinds of degrading practices that will keep them in their place, permanently. I can do almost anything I want, given their fears. Amazingly, they will not only cooperate, but even think I am doing them a favor as I degrade and humiliate them!

    Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/038260_brainwashing_sheeple_fear.html#ixzz2EZK5jJqm

    Can you spot the "red balls" our government and mass corporate media have used over the years to turn us into a nation of sheople that will comply with even the most degrading and humiliating of treatments?

     
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    Same Players Different Face

    Shocking development: WINEP favors 'strengthening ties' with Israel

    "First, it is hardly surprising that Satloff favors this course, because he works for the Washington Institute for Near East Policy and that organization -- which was spun out of AIPAC a couple of decades ago -- is a key part of the Israel lobby. It is impossible to imagine any circumstances under which a WINEP honcho would recommend reducing U.S. ties with Israel, or even using U.S. leverage to get Israel to alter its conduct in some way. At bottom, this piece is simply a crude attempt to exploit the current turmoil to reiterate the same old line.

    Second, Satloff is saying the United States should continue the same course it has followed at least the past thirty years, even though this policy has cost billions of dollars, made the United States wildly unpopular in most of the region, contributed to its terrorism problem, and allowed Israel to continue building settlements, thereby facilitating the slow-motion suicide of a democratic Jewish state. He repeats the standard AIPAC talking point about Israel being a great strategic asset, but that canard has become less and less convincing over time. And let's not forget that Israel is itself a major source of instability in the region: launching wars against Lebanon in 1982 and 2006, against Gaza in 2008-2009 and 2012, and repeatedly threatening to attack Iran.

    Finally, it is laughable to think that strengthening ties with Israel even more would alleviate current regional tensions or advance U.S. interests. To take but one example, Satloff says we should deny Hamas any sort of political victory and strengthen more moderate forces. Okay, but Israel's latest pummeling of Gaza did exactly the opposite and yet Obama backed them to the hilt. But you didn't hear Satloff calling for Israel to stop or recommending that the United States distance itself from Netanyahu's latest war.

    To be clear: Israel is not the reason there is violence in Syria or political turmoil in Egypt or elsewhere. Nonetheless, doubling down on the "special relationship" isn't going to alleviate those problems or give the United States more influence in any of these turbulent places. In fact, when the United States votes against the U.N. resolution on Palestinian statehood and turns a blind eye to the daily abuses of Palestinian rights, we look hypocritical in the eyes of the world and our influence declines even more. When Israel announces a new round of settlements and the United States says it is opposed but does absolutely nothing, Washington looks feckless and incompetent. How is that good for the United States?"
     
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    Believe it or not, I am in total agreement with you. This sounds exactly like the introductory remarks Bush made for invading Iraq, a place where we had no business and cost 4000+ American lives. We have no business in Syria. It has nothing to do with our national interests or security. Someone will make money from it somewhere, and many will lose their lives to line someone's pocket. Congress should immediately cut off all funding for any military operations within the Syrian border.

    Kyred, although you come to the same conclusion about invading Syria, it sounds like your motivation is based off a hatred of Israel, not what is best for the sovereignty of the United States and the Constitution.
     
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    I agree, SN. And isn't this called "PsyOps?"

    If there truly ARE WMDs, I expect Israel will know how to take them out since they are so close. If it is true (which I doubt), the Israelis will be the ones to do something about it from the air. If there are WMDs, they probably came from Iraq - I recall some planes being hastily loaded at Baghdad airport before we got there.

    Frankly, as cruel as it sounds, I don't care. Those people hate us. Saddam used WMDs on the Kurds. Saddam put his enemies through human meatgrinders and worse. Yet the Assyrian Christians for the most part, were left in peace. Since we got there, nearly all Christians have been driven out of Iraq. And the majority there, muslims, hate us and have killed us and maimed us and let us fight their war, hating us all the while.

    I was doubtful about going to Iraq and am positive that we should not go into Syria.
     
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    Pinpoint the source for your conclusion please. I remind you, the OP is comparing the similarities between Iraq and Syria. 'The Lobby' was very instrumental in propelling the U.S. into the Iraqi War, and, they have now become very much involved with the fear mongering with the Syria issue.

    Nuke em' kill em' all, to me, is hate.
     
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    The first quote exactly and precisely pinpoints your hatred of Israel. You said in the second quote this is about a comparison of Iraq and Syria, yet you bring up "the Jewish state," Israel, and lobbying groups for Israel several times. What does that have to do with Syria and Iraq? Aside from that, this is about the third of fourth time you have taken my quotes about nuclear bombs out of context.

    Poncho made his case based on facts. You made yours based on an agenda.
     
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    Where? How? I quoted Walt, one of the most respected academics in the world on U.S foreign policy. How does that constitute hate?

    You're not just a wee bit fickle are you?. You 'get it' here:

    http://www.baptistboard.com/showthread.php?p=1848886#post1848886

    ....but you let your agenda to smear me cause you to 'lose it' now.


    Again, to me, this is hate:

    http://www.baptistboard.com/showthread.php?p=1929992#post1929992

    http://www.baptistboard.com/showthread.php?p=1930151#post1930151

    Search long and hard for any such posts from me concerning Israel.

    'The Lobby' has you just where they want you.
     
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    There's that vacuum again:

    <deleted off topic - LE> Please stay on topic. Thanks.
     
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    Poncho, for clarification, the article referenced in post #4 was intended to identify the 'official entity' giving the analysis (read fearmongering) of post #5. Get used to seeing the acronym WINEP, and know who they are and the role they're playing within the 'The Lobby'.
     
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    I don't want to see one more American uselessly killed trying to do anything in Arab/Muslim countries>
     
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    The context of the posts was what we would be doing to defend ourselves if the Muslim countries had the technology to determine our fate. Somehow, you link our relationship with Israel as the cause of Muslim nations hating us. If we had no ties with Israel, they would hate us because our principles of freedom, liberty and a belief in the Bible. Their solution is conversion or annihilation. That is all they understand.
     
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    The "occupiers" are the Muslims in Gaza
     
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    Wow, there you go 'getting it' again.:

    <deleted - OFF TOPIC - LE> This thread is about Syria, not Israel. Please stay on topic. Thanks, LE
     
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    ...and that about sums up the wisdom of the DNA crowd.
     
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    I am aware of who and what WINEP is kyredneck. I've done my homework on the special interest groups and all the corporate funded think tanks that crank out reams of fear based propaganda and misinformation that the mass conglomerated corporate media then passes on as facts. I agree AIPAC has too much influence on our foreign policy and I think this is something we need to fully examine but for right now I'm more interested in the how of it not the who of it.

    People are just now beginning to see that the "war on terror" is not what we have been told. I think right now it would be to our best interest to figure out what it is really about then we can assign blame on those who are behind the deception.

    I think it's more important at this time that everyone should be made aware that a possible false flag op could take place in Syria any day now that would be used as a pretext for a NATO "humanitarian mission" to remove Assad from power. Regime change has always been the globalist's endgame in Syria as it was in Iraq and Libya.

    We've been in the "build up" stage for some time now and for anyone who has been paying attention we've seen this kind of build up before. It's one of the globalist's favorite ways of duping us into going along with another of their illegal, immoral, unconstitutional wars that bleeds our treasury, kills our young people and reduces our liberties and security here at home.

    Only this time people are starting to see through it. And I for one have waited a very long time for people to get to this stage of awakening. For now let's just say the globalists are behind it and see how this all plays out.

    US Repeats Syrian Chemical Weapons "Warnings"


    US repeats same tired, desperate accusations that the Syrian army is preparing to use "chemical weapons."

    December 4, 2012 (LD) - Once again, the US has issued a warning against Syria deploying "chemical weapons" citing "intelligence reports that the Damascus government is preparing such munitions for possible use." No evidence was provided, nor any reasonable explanation as to why the Syrian government would deploy such weapons when, after over 2 years, the majority of the Syrian people still stand behind the government while terrorist forces flooding over Syria's borders have been faced with constant tactical and strategic defeat.

    Despite attempts to portray Damascus and Aleppo as on the inevitable edge of collapse, now for a full 6 months, both cities are still firmly in the hands of government troops, with only symbolic terror attacks murdering scores of civilians at a time and temporary advances made on isolated bases before promptly being abandoned by NATO-backed terrorists - a pattern not unlike that facing Western forces in NATO-occupied Afghanistan.

    The accusations were printed in the Washington Post article, "Obama warns Syria amid rising concern over chemical weapons," but despite the insinuations, includes the disclaimer (emphasis added), "Syria is thought to have several hundred surface-to-surface ballistic missiles capable of carrying chemical warheads."

    Other nations "thought to have" weapons of mass destruction included Iraq, which in hindsight, after a 10 year war and occupation, following years of crippling sanctions leaving millions dead, turned out not to in fact have such weapons.

    It is unlikely that the Syrian government would use such weapons, thus giving the West the excuse it would need to directly intervene militarily, a scenario the West has been attempting to sell for the last 2 years, and particularly so following NATO's military operations in Libya throughout 2011.

    Conversely, NATO's proxy forces operating in Syria possess both the means and motivation to carry out chemical attacks, therefore blaming Syria's government and granting the West the impetus needed to intervene more directly.


    NATO-backed Terrorists have the Means.

    Libya's arsenal had fallen into the hands of sectarian extremists with NATO assistance last year in the culmination of efforts to overthrow the North African nation . Since then, Libya's militants led by commanders of Al Qaeda's Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG) have armed sectarian extremists across the Arab World, from as far West as Mali, to as far East as Syria.

    In addition to small arms, heavier weapons are also making their way through this extensive network. The Washington Post in their article, "Libyan missiles on the loose," reported:
    "Two former CIA counterterrorism officers told me last week that technicians recently refurbished 800 of these man-portable air-defense systems (known as MANPADS) — some for an African jihadist group called Boko Haram that is often seen as an ally of al-Qaeda — for possible use against commercial jets flying into Niger, Chad and perhaps Nigeria."​
    While undoubtedly these weapons are also headed to Niger, Chad, and perhaps Nigeria, they are veritably headed to Syria. Libyan LIFG terrorists are confirmed to be flooding into Syria from Libya. In November 2011, the Telegraph in their article, "Leading Libyan Islamist met Free Syrian Army opposition group," would report:

    CONTINUE . . .
     
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    It is just crazy, poncho. There is more to the Libyan story and Ambassador's and 3 others murders than we will ever know.
     
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    Agreed, totally.
     

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