Ted Haggard exonerates John Kerry

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  1. ASLANSPAL

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    http://www.9news.com/acm_news.aspx?OSGNAME=KUSA&IKOBJECTID=a73db9d1-0abe-421a-01ee-15ec09b8ff7d&TEMPLATEID=0c76dce6-ac1f-02d8-0047-c589c01ca7bf

    Kerry has been in the news and on a Richter scale uncalled for and the right wing noise machine demonizing so as to save their rear ends come the election cycle.

    With that some grace and kindness from Ted Haggard

    http://www.9news.com/includes/buildasx.aspx?fn=http://wm.kusa.gannett.edgestreams.net/news/1162447773319-HAGGARD%20FOR%20WEB!!.wmv&sp=http://wm.kusa.gannett.edgestreams.net/ads/sales/pre-stream/intelligentoffice8-06a.wmv

    Haggard is also in the news but I want to focus on what he said at 9:26 of the video ...I agree with him.

    Kerry did not mean what he said it was botched joke and those who are in the anti-christ business of spin and half truths just like the snake in the garden are going to pour gasoline on it.

    God Bless you Ted Haggard for being fair.

    http://www.9news.com/includes/buildasx.aspx?fn=http://wm.kusa.gannett.edgestreams.net/news/1162447773319-HAGGARD%20FOR%20WEB!!.wmv&sp=http://wm.kusa.gannett.edgestreams.net/ads/sales/pre-stream/intelligentoffice8-06a.wmv(a commercial then Ted Haggard speaks please fwd to 9:26 of the interview where he shows grace to John Kerry and speaks the truth imho)
     
  2. billreber

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    What Kerry said may indeed have been a "botched joke", but the problem continued to grow when he refused to apologize to those military members serving in Iraq, who were insulted by the "botched joke". That made it appear as if he had not botched a joke, but truly believed that our military members are stupid. (BTW, I happen to believe Kerry DOES believe that, but am willing to admit I do NOT know either way).

    I am glad that Kerry finally tried to apologize. However, even his apology made it look like the military members (as well as many other Americans) were fools, since they could not understand his joke! I am REALLY glad that Kerry has finally quit speaking, since he obviously has both feet in his mouth. (You know the joke: Open mouth, rearrange foot!).

    I would also say the same for any other person (Democrat OR Republican) who says foolish things, jokingly or otherwise. My dear friends, we all need to learn to say "I am sorry", as this phrase would mend many broken relationships.

    Bill :love2:
     
  3. carpro

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    Is Haggard a role model for you, APAL?
     
  4. Daisy

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    Is being fair a problem for you?
     
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    Being an abject hypocrite is... apparently that's what Haggard is. A wolf in sheeps clothing who has turned God's house into a means to personal wealth and power.

    With that in mind, it isn't surprising at all that he would be so "forgiving" of Kerry. Kerry is likewise a hypocrite whose genuine feelings about the military periodically seep up to the surface.

    If a guy does something like this once... then you can believe it was a "botched joke". When he consistently makes statements that question the integrity, honor, intelligence, etc of military people then you have to question the validity of that political cover.
     
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    Why is it OK for a politician to deride a President non-stop?

    Does he mean that by a joke that it is not serious criticism but simply jocular fun for all to enjoy?

    Why does he continue non-stop with these JOKES?



    Because he's a simple little boy, thrust upon a big stage where he tries desperately to be someone, anyone, other than Theresa Heinz second husband, that has accomplished exactly nothing.
     
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    I didn't know people being "stuck in Iraq" was something to joke about, considering we had over 100 deaths of our service men and women in October. So, whomever the "bad joke" was directed to, Iraq is no topic for jokes of any kind. The subject matter for jokes of any kind should be off limits - kind of like jokes about Nuremburg. People who make other people the butt of jokes only make themselves look small.
     
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    Botched joke my __________. His explanation was damage control, pure and simple. I just wonder who was in the room with him when they decided on the cleaned up version.
     
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    Something is not right. Aslanspal sees Rush Limbaugh caught with viagara, after visiting the Dominican republic, and he's a sex-addicted pig. Ann Coulter wears short dresses and she's a reprobate.

    But nary a word of condemnation of Haggard. He's a good guy.

    Hypocritical, n'est ce pas ?

    Ted Haggard, one who used his pulpit for gain, now must deal with the fowl that come home to roost. And good for him.

    John Kerry, well, he has to go on being John Kerry, and that's a cross to bear, to be sure.
     
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    Has Haggard confessed? Last I heard, he was still denying it. I don't have a lot of respect for him, for some other issues, but we can wait to see what happened.
     
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    curtis Ted Haggard is not even close to rush and ann

    Ted Haggard is still in its beginnings and I choose to show mercy toward him because he seems to have that attribute as well.

    as for Ann Coulter she is a witch imho a divider to make money and in her privacy calling people suckers for buying her hate and vile.

    Rush Limbaugh is a fascist pig imho he is a bully who wants it all and control all and imho he went to the most notorious sex haven in the world with a bottle of Viagra. My opinion mine alone my discernment and mine alone I think he has a sexual perversity and dis respects women hopefully
    his listeners have never done the same.

    now is their hope for them ..you betcha but they must repent ..change their ways...I would encourage that..but their fans just seem to keep enabling them.

    Ted Haggard in my discernment is really a good egg ..who will go through this trial ..will he make mistakes..is he lieing ...I think he is..but he may be doing it for a high reason...wife and children...the moral dilemma of protecting family from a personal failing. Ann and Rush must be dividers for the gain of money and the love of it.

    Ted Haggard I think has shown to be an honest broker and communicates very well with kindness...totally 180 degrees from rush and ann who sow hate and vile for profit.



    rush and ann only feed hate ...and so I gladly take on their
    bullying ways and those who parrot them.


    [personal attacks edited]

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    "Ted Haggard I think has shown to be an honest broker and communicates very well with kindness"

    I think the same could have been said of the serpent in the garden.......

    But never fear ASLANPAL, I don't think, judging from the tone and spirit of your posts, you will ever accused of that yourself.
     
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    You owe Bro. Curtis an apology for your personal insults of him, Aslanspal.
     
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    I am about solutions

    I am always open to conflict resolution but curtis uses the lame excuse in the beginning when I took on his heroes ann and rush and he then defends. them ..as I was harrassing him...now he is the one that always brings me up and mangles what I said ..but guess what I cannot pm him because he want to continue to have his own way...so I am willing to unblock him if he is.

    then perhaps we can communicate without it going public ..so encourage him and you have got yourself a deal.
     
  15. Daisy

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    He's allowed, even encouraged, to defend them even as you are allowed to criticise them - it's called a debate.

    Your post reads much better now that it has been editted.
     
  16. hillclimber1

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    I happen to share AP's view of Rush being somewhat sexually bent. But I agree with his political positions probably 90% of the time. He is an entertainer and a master at that. No one can compare with his mastery of maximizing his income. And he serves as a HUGE voice for the GOP, though unofficially.

    Ann Coulter is a prolific writer, making tons of money on her writings and appearances. She is an excellent debater and unafraid and armed to debate the liberals. Most won't have it out with her any more.

    So the liberals are simply reduced to name calling, finger pointing, and denigrating these two people. They cannot compete in debate or in the realm of public opinion so that's all they can do.
     

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