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  1. preacher4truth

    preacher4truth Active Member

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    Which is why I stated these also must condemn all who use commentary, books, devotionals, sermons, quotes &c as well to remain consistent in their absurd accusations.

    Welcome back. I see you stopped coming for a second time and have returned again.
     
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    I can quit anytime I want...:laugh:
     
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    Only 2 concerns I see in using them are that at times those who do seem to quote and refer to them as being same as scriptures, as being infallible understandings of them, and also that IF the bible teaches otherwise, seem to still see the confessions as what to hold to!
     
    #24 Yeshua1, Jun 20, 2013
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    I've never met such a person.
     
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    Likewise. I have met many who supposedly hold to the Ten Commandments, though.
     
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    You honestly have not met a christian who refuses to discuss a differing view point in the Bible on say eshatology, who prefers to state the confessions don't support that view, case closed?
     
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    Would that be those who say the OT Law is binding to NT saints?
     
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    No, that would be referring to those who reject salvation by faith in Christ because they are "keeping the Law".
     
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    Like our SDA friends?
     
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    Some of them. But I have met plenty of people who claim no particular denominational affiliation who believe they will go to Heaven by keeping the Law. Of course, they do not truly know the Law nor God's purpose for it.
     
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    Agreed. I've met several who believe they have always been good, have been seeking God their entire lives, have always loved God, and never were hostile toward Him nor at enmity toward Him, and disclaim the indictment of Romans 3 upon all of mankind. And such believe that such a basis God makes His choice.

    Well well then, if this be the case, why then was our Christ slain upon a tree?
     
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    ANY who claim they will and can get saved by keeping the Law really misunderstand what perfection means, as we break them even while saved, so if the saints cannot keep them perfectly even, what hope do sinners have?
     
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    Christ died for the ungodly - Romans 5:6. Yet some claim they were never ungodly.
     
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    True, they hold to NO original Sin/Imputation of Adam Sin to us, so born reconciled still with God!

    Their unbelief to them causes them to be lost, so why even tell them about Jesus, keep them ignornat and saved>
     
    #35 Yeshua1, Jun 21, 2013
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    TH,

    We will be going through the Baptist Confession of Faith with some folks in order to determine its worthiness of being used as a doctrinal statement. There has been agreement in dialog that to do so would help solidify the doctrinal stance of a Reformed Baptist Church, or any Baptist Church for that matter. So far I like what I've read in this particular CoF.
     
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    No, there is nothing inherit wrong with ny of those things, but what is wrong is when you use them in place of, or on par with the Bible, or else thast they have the ONLY vaid interpretation/understanding of the scriptures!
     
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    Correct. I see nothing different in using these or other resources as a teaching supplement. Unfortunately within some Baptistic realms the mere mention of any of the 'C's' brings on an attack. With that in mind we should be aware that those who claim to be 'Bible only' have also used commentaries, sermons, theological works, superfluous books, outlines, quotes and much more in preaching and teaching the Word.
     
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    i see no problem with any of them, but do tend to see that those using them quote and use them in place of the bible at timres, and seem to be unable to see outside of what is said in them, that there cannot be any understanding outside or different than what they express... just an observation, not ment as a criticism!
     
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    Could you give an example of what you've observed?
     
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