Featured The 3 C's: CoF's, Creeds & Catechisms.

Incorrect. The WCF is a paedobaptist document. The 1689 LBC is a Reformed Baptist document.

 

Is that the only used then by Baptists?

 

It certainly wouldn't be used by non-Calvinistic Baptists. But among the Reformed Baptists the 1689 and the less used 1644 are employed.

 

You will find the 1689 LBC the most oft used confession among RB's. Non-Calvinistic Baptists would not subscribe to it.

 

FWIW my church does not require prospective members to agree with the 1689 LBC. They need to understand it is our doctrinal statement and agree not to advocate or teach doctrine contrary to it. Officers of the church (deacons and elders) need to fully subscribe to the confession.

 

With no qualifications regarding secondary issues like insisting that the Pope is the Anti-Christ? All particulars are enforced,with no deviation allowed?

 

The Apostles Creed is misleading; "suffered under Pontuis Pilate" is NOT what the scriptures say:

But first must he suffer many things and be rejected of this generation. Lk 17:25

There is no charge leveled toward the Romans in the scriptures, the blood guiltiness is charged directly to that generation of Jews.

"Ye men of Israel, hear these words: Jesus of Nazareth....ye by the hand of lawless men did crucify and slay..."

"Ye men of Israel...his Servant Jesus; whom ye delivered up, and denied before the face of Pilate, when he had determined to release him. But ye denied the Holy and Righteous One, and asked for a murderer to be granted unto you.."

"And all the people answered and said, His blood be on us, and on our children."

 

An officer would have to make known any exceptions to the Confession. That exception would be considered as to its importance. There has to be complete agreement by the existing elders before the candidate would be presented before the church.

 

How do you allow then for one of the fundemental baptists distinctives of each Baptist allowed to come to their own conclusions regarding doctrines and practices?

 

They don't have anything to do with one another. Every baptist can come to their own conclusions about issues. But a local church can say as a church this is what we believe and if you are going to be a part of it, you must accept that.

I am autonomous - and that idea isn't just for churches - to believe what I think the Holy Spirit is leading me to believe. But a local church is also autonomous to say you have to agree about these certain things to be a member or to be a leader.

 

It is ironic that of all the problems with the Apostles Creed, you focus on the Jew. Nevermind that it was written BY a Catholic TO a Catholic (to Pope Siricius by "Saint" Ambrose), just focus on the "Jesus didn't suffer under Pilate" even though it was PILATE that scourged Jesus (oh that must not be suffering, scourging and crowns of thorns must be PAINLESS) and that the crucifixion is all the Jews fault.

I have debunked this CRAP here http://www.baptistboard.com/showthread.php?p=2017016#post2017016

 

"Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ" Phil 3:8

His post (and yours) is DUNG.

 

From The Baptist Confession with Commentary.....

 

5. Baptists used catechisms extensively and with much spiritual profit
until the past century. This objection itself demonstrates the sad
departure of some Baptists from their own doctrinal distinctives and
practice, and the ignorance of some modern Baptists concerning their
own history and spiritual heritage. Following are some of the more
well–known catechisms written and used by Baptists:
• Henry Jessey, Particular Baptist, A Catechism for Babes, or Little
Ones, 1652.
• Hercules Collins, Particular Baptist, The Orthodox Catechism
(adapted from the Heidelberg Catechism), 1680.
• Thomas Grantham, General Baptist, St. Paul’s Catechism (based
on the six principles of Hebrews 6), 1687.
• Benjamin Keach and William Collins, The Baptist Catechism,
1693.
• The Philadelphia Baptist Association of Particular Baptists
published a catechism appended to their Philadelphia Confession
of Faith, 1742.
• William Gadsby, Gospel Standard Baptist, published a catechism
entitled The Things Most Surely Believed Among Us, 1809.
• C. H. Spurgeon published A Baptist Catechism (compiled from
the Westminster Shorter Catechism and Keach’s Baptist
Catechism), 1855.
• The Sunday School Board of the Southern Baptist Convention
published two catechisms: the first by J. P. Boyce, A Brief
Catechism of Bible Doctrine (1864) and the second by John A.
Broadus (1892). The latter work was jointly published by both the
Southern Baptist Convention and the American Baptist
Publication Society.

 

It was written to show how much substantial agreement they had with the framers of the WCoF.

 

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