The 911 Cat is out of the bag

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  1. poncho

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    The 911 Cat is out of the bag?

    The lid is blowing off a story broadcast by American TV on September 11, 2001. The question now is whether or not owners and managers of America's mainline media will be able to continue burying facts, questions, controversy, speculations, and conclusions contradicting that day's professionally crafted narrative. When will the American people be given access to documented facts unearthed over the years since that tragic and exceptional day?

    We were told repeatedly, even while the towers in New York were still standing, that a man in a cave in Afghanistan was responsible. We were led to believe that he managed a group of Arab terrorists who flew our commercial airliners on 911. As proof, his picture was repeatedly flashed across major TV networks with the smoking buildings in the background. Today, our own FBI claims they lack any evidence linking that man to 9/11.

    We are still repeatedly shown, in newspapers and on TV, photos of 19 "Arab terrorists" supposedly on the planes, with no other proof of their even being there. Poorly produced and obviously faked videos of the big boogyman have been trotted out periodically. Where were they produced? The "flying Arabs" keep turning up alive and well. Who stole, forged, and assumed their identities? Other Arabs? Why?

    There is evidence that the boogyman was seriously ill with kidney disease requiring dialysis, and that he died late in December, 2001. The CIA knew this because he was one of their assets right up until 911. What an ideal patsy, if there ever was one! Dead men tell no tales and they can never be captured.

    We are now told by over a thousand architects and engineers that steel and concrete buildings do not explosively disintegrate due to fires within them. What really happened? Why have our leaders and pundits carefully avoided explaining the obvious demolition of WTC-7 hours later? Many of us think we know why.

    Wars, torture, bankruptcy, the Patriot Act's overturning of our cherished Bill of Rights, official lies, scare propaganda, a police-state mentality, are these intended consequences of planning and executing the improbable events of that day?

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    Dr. Alan Sabrosky, former director of studies at the US Army War College says that the military brass now know that Israel "and those traitors within our nation" committed the 911 attack.

    This is very heartening.

    This here is a very serious man. Look at his credentials.

    He talks about how Mossad carried out 9/11, how the US military now know it and how, being one quarter Jewish himself he feels that there is a danger that people like him will likely 'go down' if this gets into the public domain but that would be "a price worth paying".

    Now there's an American patriot.

    This is moving stuff. God bless these brave people. The truth must out or we are all doomed.


    ......"I have had long conversations over the last two weeks with contacts at the Army War College and the headquarters, Marine Corps and I've made it absolutely clear in both cases that it is 100% certain that 9/11 was a Mossad operation." Period.

    ......"There are some really, really unhappy people up there.......astonishment was the first thing.....they didn't know, they truly didn't know......and the next statement is rage...real rage"


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  2. billwald

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    The guys who hijacked the planes were actually Mossad agents? fat chance of that!
     
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    I was going to post a reply such as "Like everything else in life, it is the Jews fault..." but I was afraid some would think I was being serious.

    I am reminded about the poor old Jewish man who lived in a nazi ghetto but subscribed to a Nazi paper that told how the Jews were behind all the bad things that were happening to fascist Germany. They asked him why he subscribed. He responded he just liked to know how powerful he really was. :laugh:
     
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    Two JDL leaders charged in bomb plot

    December 13, 2001 Posted: 5:58 AM EST (1058 GMT)


    Federal authorities Wednesday charged two leaders of the Jewish Defense League with conspiring to blow up Arab and Muslim institutions in southern California, including the offices of Arab-American congressman Rep. Darrell Issa.

    Irv Rubin and Earl Krugel were taken into federal custody following late Tuesday raids by members of an antiterrorism task force, said Thom Mrozek, a spokesman for U.S. Attorney John S. Gordon.

    "When you target innocents based on religious or political affiliation or belief, we consider that terrorist activity," Gordon said.

    "Their primary motivation was to send a 'wake-up call' or terrorize Muslims or Arabs and alert the local, if not national, community to the JDL's commitment to attack those targets."

    CNN.com

    What's this, another conspiracy to blow up buildings?

    What's this, another "informant" supplying the bomb making materials? I never would have guessed.

    Carl Cameron Investigates

    CARL CAMERON, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Since Sept. 11, more than 60 Israelis have been arrested or detained, either under the new patriot anti-terrorism law, or for immigration violations. A handful of active Israeli military were among those detained, according to investigators, who say some of the detainees also failed polygraph questions when asked about alleged surveillance activities against and in the United States.

    There is no indication that the Israelis were involved in the 9/11 attacks, but investigators suspect that they Israelis may have gathered intelligence about the attacks in advance, and not shared it. A highly placed investigator said there are "tie-ins." But when asked for details, he flatly refused to describe them, saying, "evidence linking these Israelis to 9/11 is classified. I cannot tell you about evidence that has been gathered. It's classified information."

    Fox News has learned that one group of Israelis, spotted in North Carolina recently, is suspected of keeping an apartment in California to spy on a group of Arabs who the United States is also investigating for links to terrorism. Numerous classified documents obtained by Fox News indicate that even prior to Sept. 11, as many as 140 other Israelis had been detained or arrested in a secretive and sprawling investigation into suspected espionage by Israelis in the United States.

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    HUME: Carl, what about this question of advanced knowledge of what was going to happen on 9/11? How clear are investigators that some Israeli agents may have known something?

    CAMERON: It's very explosive information, obviously, and there's a great deal of evidence that they say they have collected — none of it necessarily conclusive. It's more when they put it all together. A bigger question, they say, is how could they not have know? Almost a direct quote.

    FAUX SNEWS
     
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    I mean really!:rolleyes:
     
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    It wasn't the Jews, it was....


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    The truth is out, this is the man who is running the world.
     
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    Seriously, dude, you need to get another interest.

    This obsession of your's is just not healthy.
     
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    I live 30 miles from Ground Zero and I don't recall once having Osama Bin Laden's or any other faces on the screen as the towers still stood. So there's lie #1. The rest of it is a bunch of bull poop as far as I'm concerned. I lived through it. Conspiracy theory my tush.
     
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    As I recall, having lived 200 and 50 miles from ground zero although I was at work at a closer location just 93 miles from the towers and three miles from an active military base on that day. Yes, I lived through it too. We all have no matter the distance our homes are from ground zero.

    "as the towers still stood." You must mean on that day, 9/11/01. If this is what you mean then you are correct. It took a couple hours for the verdict to come out.

    If your aim was to uncover a lie then you did.

    But be careful of using strawmen. Most of us have seen them before.

    Well before that day as I remember UBL and his organization had their faces and footage of them training at their training camps all over the news. They were almost celebrities there for awhile.

    Who else could be to blame, right?

    It had to be the same Islamic bad guys we all saw being accused of global terrorism right there on our own tv screens everyday, over and over and over. Right?

    Besides every thinking person already knows that conspiracies of global proportions just don't exist! They can't!

    But check this out . . .

    In order to promote their patented drugs and vaccines against flu, pharmaceutical companies influenced scientists and official agencies, responsible for public health standards to alarm governments worldwide and make them squander tight health resources for inefficient vaccine strategies and needlessly expose millions of healthy people to the risk of an unknown amount of side-effects of insufficiently tested vaccines.

    The "birds-flu"-campaign (2005/06) combined with the "swine-flu"-campaign seem to have caused a great deal of damage not only to some vaccinated patients and to public health-budgets, but to the credibility and accountability of important international health-agencies.

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    Is Dr. Wodarg a nut for calling for an investigation into the global swine flu scare for believing in a "conspiracy theory"?

    This may be your first glimpse at this story as It's not to my knolwledge being aired in the USA. So now ya know. Some clown out there thinks the drug companies and a world organization teamed up to make a fast buck and got all the world's politicians and media to sound the alarm and endorse their product for them.

    Sound's crazy doesn't it? I mean why don't they bother to report on this story here in the USA? We all lived through it too and ground zero was our own body.

    And besides it's a fact and everyone knows it. How caring the big global corporations are and how they would never do anything to put thousands of people at risk or worse for mere capital gain.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcFDOWIl7Nw&feature=related
     
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    So you are agreeing that your information was wrong? Good.
     
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    Yes, as I recall (and I remember that day clearly), no one knew who caused the attack that first day. It was the next day that it was attributed to Muslim terrorists.

    Now, that was not very difficult as all they had to do was look at who was on each plane and videos of who boarded. So knowing this information quickly is not unreasonable at all.

    You know, in some circumstances there may be real conspiracies. I was a boy when Kennedy was assassinated, and I remember seeing Oswald shot two days later. I still believe there was more to the story, and having seen the film of Kennedy many times believe that last shot came from the front, but there is little chance of ever proving that now.

    But as others have said, you can become paranoid with this type of thinking. I have a difficult time believing the Jews would ever take part in an attack on us, we are their greatest ally. They would be crazy to risk losing our support. They don't have to do anything to make the Muslim nations look like a danger or threat to us, they publicly broadcast hatred against us every day.
     
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    No, I'm agreeing that if the author said this he is mistaken or setting up a handy strawman for someone like you to come along and knock down.

    I agree the statement itself isn't factual. The rest of the information however may be of some value.

    Is there another point in the article or a statement you'd like to address?
     
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    USS Liberty

    Surviving 'Liberty' crew members would not be silenced. They kept demanding an open inquiry and tried to tell their story of deliberate attack to the media. Israel's government worked behind the scenes to thwart these efforts, going so far as having American pro-Israel groups accuse 'Liberty's' survivors of being 'anti-Semites' and 'Israel-haters.' Major TV networks cancelled interviews with the crew. A book about the 'Liberty' by crewman James Ennes' was dropped from distribution. The Israel lobby branded him 'an Arab propagandist.' (sound familiar?)

    The attack on 'Liberty' was fading into obscurity until last week, when intelligence expert James Bamford came out with Body of Secrets, his latest book about the National Security Agency. In a stunning revelation, Bamford writes that unknown to Israel, a US Navy EC-121 intelligence aircraft was flying high overhead the 'Liberty,' electronically recorded the attack. The US aircraft crew provides evidence that the Israeli pilots knew full well that they were attacking a US Navy ship flying the American flag.

    Why did Israel try to sink a naval vessel of its benefactor and ally? Most likely because 'Liberty's' intercepts flatly contradicted Israel's claim, made at the war's beginning on 5 June, that Egypt had attacked Israel, and that Israel's massive air assault on three Arab nations was in retaliation. In fact, Israel began the war by a devastating, Pearl-Harbor style surprise attack that caught the Arabs in bed and destroyed their entire air forces.

    Not quite the way we were told the story is it?​
     
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    :laugh: LOLLOLLOLLOLOL

    Thanks. I needed a good laugh. I just didn't expect such a good one. :laugh:
     
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    It's a possibility. I wouldn't put it past Israel to know and hide such a thing. The Israeli attack on the U.S.S. Liberty is a fact of history, and the testimonies of those who lived through it (not just imagine they did like Ann) confirm that Israel knew they were attacking a U.S. ship and did it purposely.

    When it comes right down to it, Israel is interested only in it's own interests, and they don't care who they have to betray to further them.
     
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    This is so stupid, I thought Lori4dogs wrote it.
     
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    gee whiz, and all this time I thought 9/11 was perpetrated by rogue clowns.

    Or maybe the fifth Beatle.

    Y'know, it could have been Ernie. He was mad at Bert for messing with his rubber duckie.

    Ah, heck. Never mind...I forgot. It was Bush. Everything's his fault.
     
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    9/11 was perpetrated by Elvis. Fact.
     
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    OK everyone, let's get out our tin foil hats. The conspirators are running a muck.

    Come on Poncho, you must have too much time on your hands. Reminds of some Pentecostals that I've know over the years who saw a demon behind every door and under every rock. They anointed everything and everybody with holy oil as a means of protection. There is only one real conspiracy that I know of and you can find it in Psalms 2.

    Psalms 2:1-3 Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing? (2) The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying, (3) Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us. (4) He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision.

    You would do much better in sharing the gospel, bringing hope to the lost, than delving into 9/11 tripe.
     
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