HP: I would like to start this off as a follow up of DHK's thread on a similiar note which was closed. I will start with comments made by Linda as her post went unanswered. HP: Sickness etc is indeed passed down through the depraved physical being of man. That is not sin. That is the effects of sin. Sin merits the punishment of God. Do you think God would be just to punish you because you were born physically handicapped or because you inherited a terrible disease? The problem you exemplify is the Augustinian error that sin lies in the constitution of the flesh as opposed to the will. The will, not the sensibilities or the flesh, is where sin is birthed and resides. HP: Is it any wonder how we perpetuate the myth of original sin? Here is a clear verse that simply states that all have sinned, and says NOTHING about a sin nature in the least, and yet as Linda does here, so many read their presupposition of a ‘sin nature’ or OS into the text. I suppose it is because they have heard it done so often in the pulpit.