The book of Revelation

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  1. evangelist6589

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    GreekTim got me on this one and that was a good thing to do and so I have ordered a 4 views book which I get for FREE due to the instant $50 Amazon credit for opening a amazon CC. Anyways the book speaks of the following approaches to Rev.

    Preterist
    Symbolic
    Classical DISP
    progressive DISP

    Sure there are others but the book hits on these topics. This would appear to be a hermeneutics book and this thread should be also so topics on the rapture, 2nd coming, millennium, and so forth may not be appropriate.

    I am a futurist but don't believe I can defend my view over people like GK Beale whom makes good arguments. So what are you and why? Why is your view on Rev right and others wrong?

    Someone whom says not to read books but the Bible will come away with a futurist interpretation so it's no wonder one former poster whom strongly disliked Calvinists had such a view. His input on this kind of a topic might be valuable. As books can corrupt viewpoints in some ways no question about it. Old Regular feels the same and so he may also be correct. I don't know and why I ordered the book.

    What say you?
     
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    I hold to an eclectic (historicist-futurist) interpretation of Revelation.
     
  3. Don

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    Because he's crusty, sometimes obnoxious, not afraid to challenge the views of others ... oh, wait. That's Rev Mitchell. You meant Revelations. My bad.

    Sorry; couldn't help myself.
     
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    Any book of the Bible can't mean today what it didn't mean when it was first written. What is the genre (Apocalyptic literature), occasion for writing (encourage faithfulness, yes it's bad, but this is not the end) This tosses most of the futurist interpretation right from the beginning.

    Then you ask of the parts that remain, those that were future looking when first written, have those "events" happened? Yes, as a matter of fact just about all of them have happened.

    So what are you left with? The return of Jesus, that's it. This takes Revelation out of the realm of the mystical and makes it something much more readily available to todays readers.

    Skip any of these and you end up with a literal 1000 years but a figurative chain and door all from the same passage of scripture. Then it's only a small jump from there to locusts being helicopters and the mark of the beast being computer chips.

    I may be wrong in my interpretation, but I won't be wrong because I'm trying to make Revelation say something that the first hearers would have never understood.
     
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    Don't get me wrong I will be looking more into your interpretation when my book arrives. GK Beale made me think about this a little.
     
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    What was GK Beale views then?
     
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    He views revelation as symbolic.
     
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    That would require someone to pretty much spirtualise entire prophetic word of the Bible, yet God seemed to be very much literal in fulfilling the prophecies made concerning jesus first coming, so why not same for His second?
     
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    I agree. Only a book could lead one to such a interpretation as it certainly did not come from the Bible.
     
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    Don its appropriate to speak kindly about others. Sometimes you act like you have as much sense as a Jack Rabbit in the way that you post. Many of your posts have been an outright attack on me, so you need to really concern yourself with brotherly love as you may lack it.

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    Sorry; couldn't help myself.
     
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    Guess you haven't read much of the OT. Read Is. 13 and tell me what you think is going on.
     
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    I would nuance that a bit. Beale is an eclectic idealist. His intro in his commentary is quite enlightening. Best commentary on Rev by far.
     
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    I think that is bogus. Read Matt. 2 and tell me how many of those prophecies were fulfilled literally. More like typologically.
     
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    I think Isa 13. is the incipient passage (one of them anyways) for Jewish apocalyptic. Good point.
     
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    Let me also add this. I just finished my thesis on Rev 2-3, so I've read a fair bit about John's Apocalypse (and taking a break on Rev for now). And one of the best books I read in all my research was Gorman's Reading Revelation Responsibly. Not an advanced level book. But really outstanding!
     
  16. Don

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    Since you couldn't tell, I'll admit: I forgot to use the <joking around> tag.
     
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    Don, you are too kind. :)
     
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    The Jack Rabbit would agree. Its all a joke.
     
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    Hmm...some serious differences in tone regarding the apocryphal "threats"....
     
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    Apocryphal and Apocalyptic mean completely different things. Did you mean to say "apocryphal"?
     

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