The Census Bureau's Job Scam

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  1. carpro

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    http://www.foxbusiness.com/story/markets/cavuto-census-bureaus-job-scam/

    The Census Bureau's Job Scam

    Maria is a Census worker who got up the guts to talk to us and whose immediate superior at Census confirmed in emails everything Maria said to us.
    ..That when laid off, and later hired back, she didn't count as a "re-hire," she counted as a "new" hire.

    Hear that again. She wasn't counted as someone getting back an "old" job, but a new job.

    SNIP

    Margaret via Earthlink.net:
    "…I just met with my assistant crew leader and was advised that we will be having weekly meetings (scheduled until late July) Lasting approximately three hours each time to keep us on payroll. He said they didn't want us hitting the unemployment numbers. There is no other reason for the meetings.
     
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    Bureaucratic gobbledegook that proves nothing.

    You really didn't expect them to own up to their politically motivated subterfuge, did you? :laugh:
     
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    Yes, it is true that in some cases an employee will be laid off at the end of an operation and then re-hired if there is a significant time between operations. That has not been the case with me, however.
     
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    Your source article in no way invalidates this claim. Instead it lends it even more credence.

    It appears you're better at attempted insults than proof. Got any proof?
     
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    If the CLA is having meetings to avoid paying unemployment, then yes, we have issues. I've never seen anything like that happen.
     
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    Carpro doesn't care about the validity of any of these facts. He considers you a "liberal" and knows you are working for the Census. He knows this gets to you and he's just being Carpro, a virtue of Christian kindness. Ignore him!

    Working for the Census is a good thing and something that is needed, according to the Constitution, so keep up the good work and don't let these pseudo-patriots get to you!
     
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    Using the census workers to pad the jobs numbers of a failing administration is the topic.

    Try to stay on point.
     
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    Except that's not happening. Census employees do count on jobs figures both for the increase in the number of jobs at the beginning of the job and count as a decrease in the number of jobs at the conclusion.
     
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    I have to disagree with you Paul, though what the Op decribed isn't happening in my area. What I do disagree with was the attempt of counting all those Census jobs in the unemployment figures this month. That tiny drop in the jobless rate was directly related to the number of census jobs.

    However, the new services were quick to point out the facts of things.
     
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    Hear me out... why wouldn't Census jobs count in the unemployment figures? They've always counted temporary jobs. Keep in mind that the jobs will also count as job losses when they're over.

    My crew finished NRFU Saturday. However, my CL recommended me for the Vacant/Delete Check operation, which uses a much smaller number of people. So, I'm still employed as of now, but they might not use everyone who was recommended. They are going to make that decision next week, with VDC to start soon thereafter. Hopefully they'll keep me for that. I've made enough money that my next semester of college is paid for, but I'd like to have enough to pay for the Spring semester next year, as well as money for expenses until I get another job.
     
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    for the simple reason that Census workers can't file for unemployment. As far as I can tell, I wan't even cut unemployment taxes, only income and SS. If we can't file for unemployment then we shouldn't be counted in the numbers.
     
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    Couple this with the James O'Keefe sting that was released about two weeks ago and we see more and more evidence of the Obamunists' corruption.

    Of course, I'm sure MenagerieKeeper and the others will find a way to defend it.
     
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    Actually, JDF, after reading the link, I'm not going to defend the CB's hiring practices. I think it is way bureaucratic and wasteful. I do understand some of thinking behind the CB's decision making, but personally I think they are wrong.

    Take my case:

    On our first day of training the CL expected 21 people. 11 showed up. Technically, those that didn't weren't yet "hired". You aren't considered hired until you take the oath and complete your training.

    So, I was hired as an "enumerator". Enumerator is a specific job title so rmember that for later. Our group workd for three weeks of the 8 the CB had scheduled for. The same week we finished, there was another group in our area training. Now that is redundancy at its best. They had our group that could have been moved to another AA, already trained, but they terminated us and hired them. That wasted all the money for the new group's training.

    Now come July there will be another segment of the count that has to do with rechecking all the "vacancies" (this is my understanding anyhow). Not only can I see no practical purpose for this, but I am certain that if the CB calls me back, my title will be something other than "enumerator". That way, I'm not a rehire, because I'm moving to a new position and in the new place I will technically be a "new hire". And I just bet, they'll count me twice in jobs numbers.

    I didn't drink all the kool-aid. Just sipped it a little. :cool:
     
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    When they do jobs figures, all they check is how many people were employed on the week that includes the 12th day of the month. There's no way you can be counted twice unless you hold two jobs at once. BTW, MK, I agree that the Bureau is not a shining example of efficiency. My crew was great, but the stuff going on in the office was just crazy.
     
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    Employment and unemployment figures are calulated statistics - not actual counts.
     
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    I have provided proof that it is, in fact, happening.

    You have not refuted it.
     

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