The Church Awakening

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  1. idonthavetimeforthis

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    I just finished "The Church Awakening" By Charles Swindoll & found it to be a good read. Anbody read it? If so, what did you think?
     
  2. Dr. Bob

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    It's on my Christmas list for Santa. ;)

    I give a copy of his "Grace Awakening" as a gift at every ordination as my blessing to the newly ordained elder. While he takes some liberty with issues (and builds some nice straw men, too) overall it is an eye-opening book for most of us who grew up Baptist ..

    Trust his insights on "Church Awakening" will likewise be of benefit.

    (Share any particulars that you felt good/bad. It won't ruin the plot for those of us who still haven't read it!!)
     
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    "Grace Awakening" was one of those "do not read books" while at the particular Bible college I attended. However, several years after graduating from this college, I read the book & really enjoyed it. The reasons given to us for not reading it were unfounded.
     
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    Another plug for "The Grace Awakening" ... two thumbs up.
     
  5. idonthavetimeforthis

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    Dr. Bob, "The Church Awakening" is a reminder that the church is not a business & that we don't need to have a consumer mentality when approaching what Jesus said He would build. He talks about being a contagious church & what worship is, etc. Swindoll uses the book of Acts as his basis (novel idea, to use the Bible as our basis).

    It's a good book. Hopefully some of you will not have a closed mind towards it based on the description I just gave!
     
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    Some people are biased, really.
    In the Bible college I went to and graduated from, our professor told us that John McArthur did not hold to the efficacy of Christ's blood.
    So we were told to not pay attention to him
    But me being a fallen creature and all, well, at night at the mission church, I often tuned my radio to listen to him, heart pounding and all, and heard him preach a sermon on the eternal security of the believer that made me take whatever that professor said to us with a bucketful of salt, from there on.
    all I wanted was my diploma, an organized church, and FREEDOM from dictates.
    This was before I became a Primitive, of course.
     
  7. Luke2427

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    Sounds like you went to the same college I went to.
     
  8. idonthavetimeforthis

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    Me too. :laugh:
     
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    :laugh:eek:h, did you go to one like that? :laugh::laugh:
     
  10. Dr. Bob

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    Sad that you did not go to a REAL college. Sad that some push church "kawlejes" to feed/build their mega-programs and not truly educate. Making clones of ignorance is not education.

    Of course, I went to historic ifb schools, but still had some really bad "mis-information" passed on as truth and standards. No school is exempt.

    Even teaching in a Baptist College in Minnesota they passed a rule that students could not go to John Piper's church (an hour away) since they were not of the same "type" of Baptist association. So students missed hearing a truly great man of God . . unless they went surreptitiously, looking over their shoulder.

    And seeing me in the congregation might have given them a start!!
     
  11. Baptist Believer

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    Long before I ever heard of John Piper, I was preaching a week of services at a Southern Baptist church in the Minneapolis area as part of my undergraduate theology program, and the pastor of the church talked about how there weren't many Baptists in the area... except for "a Baptist church where the pastor is the wrong type of Baptist."

    I asked what he meant by that, and he didn't say much except that the pastor had "messed up theology." I asked if it was a little hole-in-the-wall congregation (like some of the near cultic "Baptist" churches I have known over the years), and he said, "No, it's a large church, so it makes it difficult for Southern Baptists to compete."

    I didn't press him about it because I had just met the man and assumed he knew about "messed up theology." About two days later, I was preaching about the holiness of God and God's pending judgement on humankind's sinful rebellion against the Creator, and the pastor turned red-faced, smashed his fist into the pew in front of him and shouted, "NO!"

    It startled me, and I paused to mentally review what I had said, hoping that I hadn't accidentally misstated my point and preached heresy. I decided say, "let me clarify that" and restated my point with a bit more exposition. The pastor continued to glare at me, shaking his head, and I realized that the pastor was probably the one with "messed up theology."

    It was a difficult week from that point onward. He clearly did not want me preaching and I wasn't going to back down from the series of messages God had laid on my heart several weeks before.

    I don't know what purpose God had in mind for us that week, but we saw a number of people make outward commitments of renewal.

    We were never invited back.
     

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