IS THE CHURCH ISREAL? I say NO! I am sure this has been discussed, but I have been away for quite a while. Came up on the "SUCCESSIVE REVELATION" thread (as well as a few others recently), so I thought, let's start a new one... Rom 11:25-27 clearly says that God is not done with Israel! Here is a little exercise... Swap the word "church" for "Israel" in the following passages and see how much sense it makes. Rom 11:25-27 5 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. 26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: 27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins. Rom 9:1-5 1 I say the truth in Christ, I lie not, my conscience also bearing me witness in the Holy Ghost, 2 That I have great heaviness and continual sorrow in my heart. 3 For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh: 4 Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises; 5 Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen. Israel is not the Church and the Church is not Israel... Not all Israel is Israel, in that some Jews are not believers in the God of Israel, BUT IN NO PASSAGE ARE GENTILE BELIEVERS EVER CALLED THE SONS OF ISRAEL!